alitheia
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Post by alitheia on Oct 27, 2021 19:25:36 GMT
Just throwing this out there, what are your thoughts on Biden's answers and his mannerisms during his town hall appearance?
Clenched fists?
That unvaccinated people will get Covid . . . and kill you?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 27, 2021 19:36:11 GMT
Week late. You joined just to start this. Or are you reinvented?
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Post by lucyg on Oct 27, 2021 19:58:12 GMT
There is nothing … absolutely zero … that could possibly be wrong with Joe Biden that would make him a worse president than the twice-impeached former guy.
And nope, he did just fine, especially for an over-worked (as in actually working, not watching Fox News and playing golf) 78yo. I’m very happy. Thanks for asking.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 27, 2021 19:59:33 GMT
I’m very happy. Thanks for asking. Bwahahaha...me too!
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Post by compeateropeator on Oct 27, 2021 21:40:48 GMT
🤷♀️. That is what I think. Obviously he has his fair share of gaffs and misspeaks, but it is nothing new for him and he is still hands above who we previously had for President. I can at least listen to him, understand him, and more importantly agree with much more that he says than the nothing that I agreed with when Trump spoke. If he starts talking about revolutionary war troops who took over the airports I might change my Mind. 😆
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Post by papersilly on Oct 27, 2021 21:45:52 GMT
i would rather see Biden with closed fists than the last guy with this big, lying mouth wide open and spewing hate or divisiveness. any day. a thousand times a day. 46>45.
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Post by myshelly on Oct 27, 2021 21:49:05 GMT
Nothing in politics is ever going to change for the better if the best people can say is well at least my guy is better than your guy.
Was Donald Trump an awful President? Yes.
What does that have to do with how Biden is?
Biden is doing a terrible job. He looks like a doddering old fool every time he speaks, but especially at that awful town hall.
We should all be pissed that these are our only choices.
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Post by PLurker on Oct 27, 2021 21:50:29 GMT
Week late. You joined just to start this. Or are you reinvented? Me: what's she talking about? Did I just miss something? Oh, that. Old news/no news. (do we have a "stirring the pot" emoji? If not:need)
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purplebee
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Post by purplebee on Oct 27, 2021 22:02:05 GMT
I thought he was fine. He is honest, cares about others and the state of the world, not just his own celebrity. It is great to have a normal, relatable human being actually serving (unlike TFG) the Nation.
And yes, the actions/demeanor/capability of the previous president DO matter, because that is why this pot-stirring question was asked.
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Post by lucyg on Oct 27, 2021 22:18:15 GMT
Nothing in politics is ever going to change for the better if the best people can say is well at least my guy is better than your guy. Was Donald Trump an awful President? Yes. What does that have to do with how Biden is? Biden is doing a terrible job. He looks like a doddering old fool every time he speaks, but especially at that awful town hall. We should all be pissed that these are our only choices. In no way is he doing a terrible job. In no way am I pissed. I voted for him in the primary (I chose him), I am pleased he is president, and overall, he is doing quite well. There. I answered without referring to TFG. Okay now?
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Post by amom23 on Oct 27, 2021 22:49:41 GMT
I am so proud Joe Biden is our president!
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ellen
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Post by ellen on Oct 27, 2021 23:02:02 GMT
I voted for Joe in the primary and I'm just fine with the job he is doing. Not pissed at all that he was my choice.
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Post by Laurie on Oct 27, 2021 23:16:26 GMT
We could do a TL;DR of this thread and really almost all political threads as they are predictable. The left will say he is fine and the right will say it is bad.
As far as the middle…here is my opinion as I am just that. Did I like Trump? Nope. Awful. Do I think Biden is doing a great job? Meh, not really. He isn’t as offensive and frustrating as the former. He isn’t as big of an asshole either. But I’m honest that he isn’t wowing me. Sadly we didn’t have a wow worthy option though to vote for. So I guess we brought it on ourselves.
I didn’t have a problem with Obama or GWB. They both had strengths and weaknesses. They both did things that made me happy and pissed. However, in the end I was happy with both of them. I don’t follow party lines and wish there were more peas on this board like that to have discussions with.
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 27, 2021 23:21:09 GMT
I'm quite happy with our new president. Every morning I wake up with an enormous sense of relief that I no longer have to worry about what new offensive statement was tweeted at 4 in the morning. Eventually, the Democrats will pass the infrastructure bills. The Democrats successfully passed a covid relief package in the spring that included monthly tax credits that make a big difference to many families. My son's school is benefitting from federal funds to test students and staff once a week. We're still dealing with covid, but I am relieved to have a president who cares, who is willing the follow the science and is not out playing golf, ignoring the pandemic. Every time I see Jill Biden, I'm happy that she is the First Lady. Most importantly, I'm thrilled to have a First Lady with a background in education. I'm also confident that she will never make an insensitive statement like wearing a jacket that says ask me if I care. Every time there is a natural disaster, I'm grateful that President Biden is in charge and he won't just throw paper towels or suggest raking forest floors. I feel fortunate to have a president in charge who is taking climate change seriously and re-entered the Paris agreement.
Every time there is a summit with world leaders, I'm relieved that President Biden is in charge and will not offend other leaders or start World War 3. I'm happy to have a president who recognizes Russia as a threat and doesn't just idolize Putin. I'm relieved that the person in charge of nuclear weapons is educated and smart enough to know that Great Britain is a nuclear power and Scandanavia is not part of Russia. And yes, the former guy is relevant because unfortunately, he's still head of the Republican Party.
Biden's not perfect. There were mistakes like Afghanistan. Although the issue is complex and I don't blame President Biden, immigration is a mess. Biden is not President Obama and may not have been my first choice. He's not Kamala Harris, Pete Buttigieg or Jamie Raskin (not realistic but I would love to see any of them as president). But, I am still optimistic that President Biden is uniquely qualified to help reunite our country or at the very least, heal some of the deep divisions.
And he is a million times better than the other guy.
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Post by tentoes on Oct 27, 2021 23:33:48 GMT
Sorry.
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Post by pinklady on Oct 27, 2021 23:38:30 GMT
Biden is doing a terrible job. He looks like a doddering old fool every time he speaks, but especially at that awful town hall. We should all be pissed that these are our only choices. Nope, not even close. You know who is actually doing a terrible job, every Congress person and Senator. None of them are working for the best interests of the American people. They are working for the best interests for themselves.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 27, 2021 23:45:32 GMT
My main complaint about this President is not really a complaint about him—it is about Congress. It is frustrating to no end that there are no republicans that have a moral compass or that are concerned with issues that affect us all. The fact that nothing will get done because there are zero republicans that will vote for policies that look out for PEOPLE (not corporations) and the environment is irritating as hell. And then we have the “Democrats” who are so afraid of the republicans in their state that they also hinder progress. And who will get blamed? Biden.
I, too, wish that the country wasn’t so partisan, but that is where we are. And yes, I do blame republicans for that. Democrats in Congress have tried to com︅promise for years, but people like Mitch MCConnell outwardly state that their intent is to block any thing Democrats support. And their voters go along with it, adding in Trump and you have a further divide. At this point I can’t get behind anyone or any party that supports trump and others like him.
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 27, 2021 23:46:36 GMT
Biden is doing a terrible job. He looks like a doddering old fool every time he speaks, but especially at that awful town hall. We should all be pissed that these are our only choices. Nope, not even close. You know who is actually doing a terrible job, every Congress person and Senator. None of them are working for the best interests of the American people. They are working for the best interests for themselves. Exactly. Congress not surprisingly only has a 20% approval rating. I'm furious with Republican senators and representatives not willing to vote for a Jan 6 committee and trying to rewrite history. I'm furious the Republican senators would not even debate a voting rights bill. I'm also frustrated with the Democrats for taking so long to pass the infrastructure bill. I'm frustrated with the process. I'm frustrated that 2 senators have the power to block the bills and remove key provisions like climate change and possibly, negations on prescription drug prices. I'm frustrated that they have not passed a voting rights bill and terrified of what will happen in the next election if they don't. I'm aggravated with all of them that getting re-elected is their main concern. Especially the Republicans who are afraid to offend the base and have embraced former and white supremacy.
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Post by pierogi on Oct 27, 2021 23:47:10 GMT
I voted for Joe in the primary and I'm just fine with the job he is doing. Not pissed at all that he was my choice. I voted for Elizabeth Warren in the primary, and I'm just fine with the job Joe Biden is doing. The damage that the criminal and his accomplices inflicted upon our country was so profound, that it will take a generation to undo. As lucyg stated, he's working hard, actually working, to serve us. I'm so grateful he's president.
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 28, 2021 0:16:11 GMT
Nothing in politics is ever going to change for the better if the best people can say is well at least my guy is better than your guy. Was Donald Trump an awful President? Yes. What does that have to do with how Biden is? Biden is doing a terrible job. He looks like a doddering old fool every time he speaks, but especially at that awful town hall. We should all be pissed that these are our only choices. In no way is he doing a terrible job. In no way am I pissed. I voted for him in the primary (I chose him), I am pleased he is president, and overall, he is doing quite well. There. I answered without referring to TFG. Okay now? I’m fine with him. I am not pleased with Congressional Dems at the moment. They need to stop pissing about, find common ground, and do a deal. More dealmaking, fewer TV appearances. It’s clear that no one will get everything that they want, but everyone can get something good. Don’t let perfection(I.e. getting exactly what you want) be the enemy of good.
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 28, 2021 0:17:08 GMT
Biden is doing a terrible job. He looks like a doddering old fool every time he speaks, but especially at that awful town hall. We should all be pissed that these are our only choices. Nope, not even close. You know who is actually doing a terrible job, every Congress person and Senator. None of them are working for the best interests of the American people. They are working for the best interests for themselves. 💯%
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Post by onelasttime on Oct 28, 2021 0:49:53 GMT
In no way is he doing a terrible job. In no way am I pissed. I voted for him in the primary (I chose him), I am pleased he is president, and overall, he is doing quite well. There. I answered without referring to TFG. Okay now? I’m fine with him. I am not pleased with Congressional Dems at the moment. They need to stop pissing about, find common ground, and do a deal. More dealmaking, fewer TV appearances. It’s clear that no one will get everything that they want, but everyone can get something good. Don’t let perfection(I.e. getting exactly what you want) be the enemy of good. I don’t disagree with what you are saying and I’m all for compromise but (there is always a but) Manchin and Sinema are not good faith actors. Between the two of them they are systematically stripping items from the bill including how to pay for it using reasons to justify their stripping that makes no sense. And every time you give them what they want, they then want more. Which makes me think they are in the pockets of rich Republican donors Which makes me also think the final bill, if there ever is one, will be a mere shadow of the original and that’s not acceptable. Since President Biden and other Democrats in Congress can’t threaten them to get with the program or else, the Biden Administration and more importantly the American People are screwed once again and it’s all because of Manchin & Sinema
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 28, 2021 0:53:48 GMT
I’m fine with him. I am not pleased with Congressional Dems at the moment. They need to stop pissing about, find common ground, and do a deal. More dealmaking, fewer TV appearances. It’s clear that no one will get everything that they want, but everyone can get something good. Don’t let perfection(I.e. getting exactly what you want) be the enemy of good. I don’t disagree with what you are saying and I’m all for compromise but (there is always a but) Manchin and Sinema are not good faith actors. Between the two of them they are systematically stripping items from the bill including how to pay for it using reasons to justify their stripping that makes no sense. And every time you give them what they want, they then want more. Which makes me think they are in the pockets of rich Republican donors Which makes me also think the final bill, if there ever is one, will be a mere shadow of the original and that’s not acceptable. Since President Biden and other Democrats in Congress can’t threaten them to get with the program or else, the Biden Administration and more importantly the American People are screwed once again and it’s all because of Manchin & Sinema Yes, they are the most irritating of all. I wouldn’t want to get between Manchin and a camera. As for Sinema, she is hard to figure out. Best guess is that she has her eye on a post-Senate job that will make her a lot of money. However, I would like all of them to comment less and deal more.
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Post by paget on Oct 28, 2021 1:12:30 GMT
In the olden days I was a republican. Now I’d say I’m an independent. I voted for Biden (first time I ever voted Democrat- always R or 3rd party in the past) and I’m happy with my vote. It’s also true that sadly, I have a very low bar. But I haven’t seen anything that makes me displeased with Biden.
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Post by mom2jnk on Oct 28, 2021 1:14:10 GMT
I don’t disagree with what you are saying and I’m all for compromise but (there is always a but) Manchin and Sinema are not good faith actors. Between the two of them they are systematically stripping items from the bill including how to pay for it using reasons to justify their stripping that makes no sense. And every time you give them what they want, they then want more. Which makes me think they are in the pockets of rich Republican donors Which makes me also think the final bill, if there ever is one, will be a mere shadow of the original and that’s not acceptable. Since President Biden and other Democrats in Congress can’t threaten them to get with the program or else, the Biden Administration and more importantly the American People are screwed once again and it’s all because of Manchin & Sinema Yes, they are the most irritating of all. I wouldn’t want to get between Manchin and a camera. As for Sinema, she is hard to figure out. Best guess is that she has her eye on a post-Senate job that will make her a lot of money. However, I would like all of them to comment less and deal more. Manchin is easy to figure out. He makes almost a half million dollars a year in dividends alone just from his (his son now runs the company for him, keeping Manchin clear of ethic violations... a laughable idea!) coal company. The man is making a fortune off fossil fuels. But Sinema is another horse altogether. There was an interesting podcast about her today that I just listened to... The Daily: The Story of Kyrsten Sinema I do think you are correct and she has some very high ambitions for herself. My impressions of her are that she is completely self-centered, intelligent, wily, and willing to sacrifice anyone and anything for her own ambitions. A piece of work indeed.
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Post by J u l e e on Oct 28, 2021 1:32:40 GMT
Honestly, I wish he’d answer questions more succinctly and stop getting so far in the weeds with his stories. I get frustrated listening to him during town halls and find myself holding my breath for him to just. answer. the. question! Other than that, I’m good.
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Post by Sarah*H on Oct 28, 2021 1:51:04 GMT
Nothing in politics is ever going to change for the better if the best people can say is well at least my guy is better than your guy. Was Donald Trump an awful President? Yes. What does that have to do with how Biden is? Biden is doing a terrible job. He looks like a doddering old fool every time he speaks, but especially at that awful town hall. We should all be pissed that these are our only choices. Yeah, that's a nah for me dog. I'm pissed that we can't vote Kyrsten Sinema out yesterday. I'm pissed that Al Franken moved to NY instead of AZ even though he seems to be gearing up to run for Senate again. I'm pissed that Joe Manchin doesn't seem remotely interested in what will actually help the citizens of his beleaguered state. But pissed that Joe Biden is our President? Not ever for one second. If we had a functioning Congress, no one would even worry about his performance at town halls. The alternative is so horrific that it makes me laugh that you think we should be pissed or that he is doing a "terrible job."
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 28, 2021 2:05:46 GMT
Yes, they are the most irritating of all. I wouldn’t want to get between Manchin and a camera. As for Sinema, she is hard to figure out. Best guess is that she has her eye on a post-Senate job that will make her a lot of money. However, I would like all of them to comment less and deal more. Manchin is easy to figure out. He makes almost a half million dollars a year in dividends alone just from his (his son now runs the company for him, keeping Manchin clear of ethic violations... a laughable idea!) coal company. The man is making a fortune off fossil fuels. But Sinema is another horse altogether. There was an interesting podcast about her today that I just listened to... The Daily: The Story of Kyrsten Sinema I do think you are correct and she has some very high ambitions for herself. My impressions of her are that she is completely self-centered, intelligent, wily, and willing to sacrifice anyone and anything for her own ambitions. A piece of work indeed. Completely agree on both. It’s infuriating.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 28, 2021 2:07:14 GMT
I’m fine with him. I am not pleased with Congressional Dems at the moment. They need to stop pissing about, find common ground, and do a deal. More dealmaking, fewer TV appearances. It’s clear that no one will get everything that they want, but everyone can get something good. Don’t let perfection(I.e. getting exactly what you want) be the enemy of good. I don’t disagree with what you are saying and I’m all for compromise but (there is always a but) Manchin and Sinema are not good faith actors. Between the two of them they are systematically stripping items from the bill including how to pay for it using reasons to justify their stripping that makes no sense. And every time you give them what they want, they then want more. Which makes me think they are in the pockets of rich Republican donors Which makes me also think the final bill, if there ever is one, will be a mere shadow of the original and that’s not acceptable. Since President Biden and other Democrats in Congress can’t threaten them to get with the program or else, the Biden Administration and more importantly the American People are screwed once again and it’s all because of Manchin & Sinema And the republicans in congress.
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 28, 2021 2:23:25 GMT
I’m fine with him. I am not pleased with Congressional Dems at the moment. They need to stop pissing about, find common ground, and do a deal. More dealmaking, fewer TV appearances. It’s clear that no one will get everything that they want, but everyone can get something good. Don’t let perfection(I.e. getting exactly what you want) be the enemy of good. I don’t disagree with what you are saying and I’m all for compromise but (there is always a but) Manchin and Sinema are not good faith actors. Between the two of them they are systematically stripping items from the bill including how to pay for it using reasons to justify their stripping that makes no sense. And every time you give them what they want, they then want more. Which makes me think they are in the pockets of rich Republican donors Which makes me also think the final bill, if there ever is one, will be a mere shadow of the original and that’s not acceptable. Since President Biden and other Democrats in Congress can’t threaten them to get with the program or else, the Biden Administration and more importantly the American People are screwed once again and it’s all because of Manchin & Sinema Manchin today reportedly blocked the billionaire tax. There are only about 700 billionaires in this country. How many can West Virginia have? Both of them irritate me because they are clearly not working in the best interests of their constituents and are against things that are widely popular. I wonder if it's more than money though? I'm sure there have been plenty of offers of programs for their state. I would even be OK with the DNC throwing a lot of money at them for their next elections if they lose donors. I know Manchin at least is enjoying the attention. But I feel like there must be something else going on that we don't know about.
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