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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2021 4:50:05 GMT
Manchin today reportedly blocked the billionaire tax. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 28, 2021 11:59:13 GMT
And as for “better candidates”….look at what is happening at all levels of government right now. We aren’t even going to have good candidates willing to run for school board based on the treatment by rabid conservative groups. The good ones are resigning and the ones wanting to take their place are the ones doing the threatening and making the noise. Look at how several Republican members of Congress treated Merrick Garland yesterday. They are said to be “auditioning” for the GOP. And that behavior is what is encouraged.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 28, 2021 12:54:21 GMT
Nothing in politics is ever going to change for the better if the best people can say is well at least my guy is better than your guy. Was Donald Trump an awful President? Yes. What does that have to do with how Biden is? Biden is doing a terrible job. He looks like a doddering old fool every time he speaks, but especially at that awful town hall. We should all be pissed that these are our only choices. Totally your opinion on whether YOU feel he’s doing a terrible job. But consider this— Republicans have balked, disrupted, denied, refused, obstructed pretty much EVERYTHING that this administration has proposed or out to vote. So it absolutely IS relevant that comparisons are often made. Whether it’s a person or administration. And making a comparison in response to what the OP asked—yes, I’m good/better—I feel a bit calmer, safer, and less ragey now with Biden, than with the orange lying cheeto. |
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 28, 2021 12:56:40 GMT
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Post by guzismom on Oct 28, 2021 13:19:35 GMT
Nothing in politics is ever going to change for the better if the best people can say is well at least my guy is better than your guy. Was Donald Trump an awful President? Yes. What does that have to do with how Biden is? Biden is doing a terrible job. He looks like a doddering old fool every time he speaks, but especially at that awful town hall. We should all be pissed that these are our only choices. Totally your opinion on whether YOU feel he’s doing a terrible job. But consider this— Republicans have balked, disrupted, denied, refused, obstructed pretty much EVERYTHING that this administration has proposed or out to vote.
So it absolutely IS relevant that comparisons are often made. Whether it’s a person or administration. And making a comparison in response to what the OP asked—yes, I’m good/better—I feel a bit calmer, safer, and less ragey now with Biden, than with the orange lying cheeto. My thoughts exactly. |
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Post by casii on Oct 28, 2021 13:48:56 GMT
Biden was handed a dumpster fire. Is said dumpster fire still burning? Yes, primarily because the GOP long ago decided not to act in good faith. But at least Biden has surrounded himself with good people whose motivation isn't to destabilize the country by provoking fear, outrage, rolling back protective laws & regulations, embracing authoritarian leaders and worse.
Every day Trump was in office, it was one chaotic disaster after another. How many staffers left, got fired or were arrested? How many of us had to start new bingo cards for the 'best people' that Trump surrounded himself with? I saw a video of a man asking a GOP elected official when they can start shooting people. Imagine if Trump had managed a successful coup. Many of us would have targets on our back because, checks notes, we want good things for all people. That's our crime.
Voting rights. If we don't get that taken care of, we will continue to be a populace ruled by a minority and it will get worse. I will be disappointed if Biden doesn't push hard on that and keep pushing until something happens.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 28, 2021 14:06:30 GMT
Nope, not even close. You know who is actually doing a terrible job, every Congress person and Senator. None of them are working for the best interests of the American people. They are working for the best interests for themselves. Exactly. Congress not surprisingly only has a 20% approval rating. I'm furious with Republican senators and representatives not willing to vote for a Jan 6 committee and trying to rewrite history. I'm furious the Republican senators would not even debate a voting rights bill. I'm also frustrated with the Democrats for taking so long to pass the infrastructure bill. I'm frustrated with the process. I'm frustrated that 2 senators have the power to block the bills and remove key provisions like climate change and possibly, negations on prescription drug prices. I'm frustrated that they have not passed a voting rights bill and terrified of what will happen in the next election if they don't. I'm aggravated with all of them that getting re-elected is their main concern. Especially the Republicans who are afraid to offend the base and have embraced former and white supremacy. And those two who are blocking, because of prescription and climate are being funded by Big Pharm and Oil & Gas!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2021 14:52:28 GMT
And this is NOT normal... It's normal for some people - depending on their physical situation. I'm much more concerned about WHAT HE SAYS and HOW HE MANAGES he executive office than HOW HE STANDS. PS - These weren't "normal" either - the 19 second handshake w/the Japanese PM, the odd 2-handed cup drinking, the shuffling down the ramp - to mention only a few of TFG's weirdities. Did you comment on those too? Of course not. www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/01/trump-cog-decline/548759/The problem w/TFG wasn't his weirdities in moving it was HIS VITRIOL, HIS SCUMMY BEHAVIOR, HIS BRUTISHNESS. Hope that helps. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 28, 2021 15:04:13 GMT
Right, the Senate. Where are all our Ambassadors?
TWO confirmed BECAUSE they are former Senators!
TWO are former's holdovers!
Every other one is VACANT!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 28, 2021 15:07:32 GMT
I don’t disagree with what you are saying and I’m all for compromise but (there is always a but) Manchin and Sinema are not good faith actors. Between the two of them they are systematically stripping items from the bill including how to pay for it using reasons to justify their stripping that makes no sense. And every time you give them what they want, they then want more. Which makes me think they are in the pockets of rich Republican donors Which makes me also think the final bill, if there ever is one, will be a mere shadow of the original and that’s not acceptable. Since President Biden and other Democrats in Congress can’t threaten them to get with the program or else, the Biden Administration and more importantly the American People are screwed once again and it’s all because of Manchin & Sinema Manchin today reportedly blocked the billionaire tax. There are only about 700 billionaires in this country. How many can West Virginia have? Both of them irritate me because they are clearly not working in the best interests of their constituents and are against things that are widely popular. I wonder if it's more than money though? I'm sure there have been plenty of offers of programs for their state. I would even be OK with the DNC throwing a lot of money at them for their next elections if they lose donors. I know Manchin at least is enjoying the attention. But I feel like there must be something else going on that we don't know about. He’s funded by those billionaires…so if he votes against them, HE loses $$$. So it’s not what he’s doing “for the people” it is what he’s doing for himself and his family’s enrichment. |
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Post by silverlining on Oct 28, 2021 15:10:27 GMT
I feel like the Federal Government as a whole is functioning so much better now. Biden has done a good job of hiring intelligent, competent people to carry out his agenda. It's an agenda I agree with, and that's much more important to me than anything else.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 28, 2021 15:11:18 GMT
Where were you (verbalizing) what deals trump made that resulted in all this clusterfuck? Your MO is to come out of hiding when you can verbally criticize democrats, then stay low when the shoe is on the other foot. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2021 15:13:09 GMT
He’s funded by those billionaires…so if he votes against them, HE loses $$$. So it’s not what he’s doing “for the people” it is what he’s doing for himself and his family’s enrichment. America: Best democracy money can buy. |
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Post by sudie on Oct 28, 2021 15:14:37 GMT
My main complaint about this President is not really a complaint about him—it is about Congress. It is frustrating to no end that there are no republicans that have a moral compass or that are concerned with issues that affect us all. The fact that nothing will get done because there are zero republicans that will vote for policies that look out for PEOPLE (not corporations) and the environment is irritating as hell. And then we have the “Democrats” who are so afraid of the republicans in their state that they also hinder progress. And who will get blamed? Biden. I, too, wish that the country wasn’t so partisan, but that is where we are. And yes, I do blame republicans for that. Democrats in Congress have tried to com︅promise for years, but people like Mitch MCConnell outwardly state that their intent is to block any thing Democrats support. And their voters go along with it, adding in Trump and you have a further divide. At this point I can’t get behind anyone or any party that supports trump and others like him. 1000 times this!! |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 28, 2021 15:14:48 GMT
I just want to say something about the fist clenching. Because it hit me hard when some have tried to imply it's not normal. I have a condition called tardive dyskinesia. Right now, it primarily affects my hands. I have involuntary movement in my hands. It's not so bad when my hands are actually moving like when I crochet or type on a keyboard. But when I sit still, I have the worst time with it. And controlling it means that my hands often look clenched or unnaturally posed. I posted this picture of me on my Facebook wall and I actually had a friend joke with me that I was making gang signs with my hands. I knew my friend was just joking with me but he didn't know about my condition. And I stopped to wonder how many other people may have judged me. I even posted the pic on this board. No one said anything to me here but maybe they assumed something nefarious. All because I am trying hard to control my hands. People with Parkinson's do the very same thing. I throw this out there because a lot of people have issues like this. And really our physical state might be affected but our mental States are not.  |
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 28, 2021 15:26:55 GMT
And this is NOT normal... It's normal for some people - depending on their physical situation. I'm much more concerned about WHAT HE SAYS and HOW HE MANAGES he executive office than HOW HE STANDS. PS - These weren't "normal" either - the 19 second handshake w/the Japanese PM, the odd 2-handed cup drinking, the shuffling down the ramp - to mention only a few of TFG's weirdities. Did you comment on those too? Of course not. www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/01/trump-cog-decline/548759/The problem w/TFG wasn't his weirdities in moving it was HIS VITRIOL, HIS SCUMMY BEHAVIOR, HIS BRUTISHNESS. Hope that helps. It's not normal for him. Really. Find anything from even 5 years ago that aligns with this type of standing in a trance like that with his arms in such an unnatural position. Anything similar. |
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 28, 2021 15:32:11 GMT
I just want to say something about the fist clenching. Because it hit me hard when some have tried to imply it's not normal. I have a condition called tardive dyskinesia. Right now, it primarily affects my hands. I have involuntary movement in my hands. It's not so bad when my hands are actually moving like when I crochet or type on a keyboard. But when I sit still, I have the worst time with it. And controlling it means that my hands often look clenched or unnaturally posed. I posted this picture of me on my Facebook wall and I actually had a friend joke with me that I was making gang signs with my hands. I knew my friend was just joking with me but he didn't know about my condition. And I stopped to wonder how many other people may have judged me. I even posted the pic on this board. No one said anything to me here but maybe they assumed something nefarious. All because I am trying hard to control my hands. People with Parkinson's do the very same thing. I throw this out there because a lot of people have issues like this. And really our physical state might be affected but our mental States are not. There's a HUGE difference between your bent fingers and Joe Biden's completely unnatural stance and trance like moment. I wouldn't think twice about your picture, other than that picture caught your fingers mid fidget or something. A fleeting thought and then gone. You look completely normal there. Joe Biden does not. |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 28, 2021 15:39:56 GMT
Find anything from even 5 years ago that aligns with this type of standing in a trance like that with his arms in such an unnatural position. I did not have my condition 5 years ago. You look completely normal there. Joe Biden does not. Would it have been normal if instead of trying to hold my hands open, I had clenched them? I uncomfortable with you judging me too. I think you are completely weird for focusing on how he physically presented himself. I think you ought to have focused on his words and up until now his actions. And before I get criticized, I've never made a comment about Trump's physical appearance either. And we've seen many times him looking angry, upset, or tired. I just don't read too much into that stuff because I cannot imagine the kind of pressure that a president must be under. |
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 28, 2021 16:01:57 GMT
Find anything from even 5 years ago that aligns with this type of standing in a trance like that with his arms in such an unnatural position. I did not have my condition 5 years ago. You look completely normal there. Joe Biden does not. Would it have been normal if instead of trying to hold my hands open, I had clenched them? I uncomfortable with you judging me too. I think you are completely weird for focusing on how he physically presented himself. I think you ought to have focused on his words and up until now his actions. And before I get criticized, I've never made a comment about Trump's physical appearance either. And we've seen many times him looking angry, upset, or tired. I just don't read too much into that stuff because I cannot imagine the kind of pressure that a president must be under. I did not judge you, in fact I specifically said, I wouldn't think twice about your picture, other than that picture caught your fingers mid fidget or something. I don't think it's weird at all to notice such a completely unnatural stance and seeming trance Biden was in. Trump (or anyone) looking tired, angry or upset is worlds apart from what Biden did there. I did not have my condition 5 years ago. Again your fingers and Biden's truly bizarre stance are not even in the same galaxy. |
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Post by lucyg on Oct 28, 2021 16:04:09 GMT
We should all be pissed that these are our only choices. And one more thing. These were our only choices because they were the two our primary voters chose to represent us. They didn’t start out being our only choices, at least not on the Democratic side. So you can be pissed off that your guy/gal didn’t win the nomination, but stop acting as if Biden was forced down the voters’ throats. He wasn’t. We chose him. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Oct 28, 2021 16:08:54 GMT
I was just reading updates on the latest cluster that is Congress. I think the presidency is a tough job and have been in favor of age limits since Reagan. I think Biden is a decent, hardworking, president who truly cares about our country. But he's way out of his depth as the head of the Democratic Party. As much as people want to bitch about the Republicans, his own party is doing him no favors. And it's more than just Manchin and Sinema - the progressives never should have held up the Infrastructure bill for leverage on the spending bill. Now they just look like they can't govern - and it's not a good look heading into 2022. I don't know who could actually get the party to pull in the same direction with some kind of discipline, but they better find that person fast as the midterms are going to be a disaster and it does not bode well for 2024 which will be here so damn early as our presidential primary/races are FOREVER - and I for one have absolutely no interest in Trump v2.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2021 16:09:39 GMT
It's normal for some people - depending on their physical situation. I'm much more concerned about WHAT HE SAYS and HOW HE MANAGES he executive office than HOW HE STANDS. PS - These weren't "normal" either - the 19 second handshake w/the Japanese PM, the odd 2-handed cup drinking, the shuffling down the ramp - to mention only a few of TFG's weirdities. Did you comment on those too? Of course not. www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/01/trump-cog-decline/548759/The problem w/TFG wasn't his weirdities in moving it was HIS VITRIOL, HIS SCUMMY BEHAVIOR, HIS BRUTISHNESS. Hope that helps. It's not normal for him. Really. Find anything from even 5 years ago that aligns with this type of standing in a trance like that with his arms in such an unnatural position. Anything similar. Of course not. He's aging - like all of us. Was TFG's shuffling and two-handed drinking "normal for him"?
The key is Biden's policies and his execution and his care for Americans.
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 28, 2021 16:19:15 GMT
It's not normal for him. Really. Find anything from even 5 years ago that aligns with this type of standing in a trance like that with his arms in such an unnatural position. Anything similar. Of course not. He's aging - like all of us. Was TFG's shuffling and two-handed drinking "normal for him"?
Yes! That's what people are saying. And he's visibly mentally declining as he does. Which affects his ability to run a country. The key is Biden's policies and his execution and his care for Americans. Biden's policies suck. His execution sucks. His care for Americans suck. He's divisive. He's pitting part of the country against the other part. |
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Post by lucyg on Oct 28, 2021 16:22:15 GMT
It's normal for some people - depending on their physical situation. I'm much more concerned about WHAT HE SAYS and HOW HE MANAGES he executive office than HOW HE STANDS. PS - These weren't "normal" either - the 19 second handshake w/the Japanese PM, the odd 2-handed cup drinking, the shuffling down the ramp - to mention only a few of TFG's weirdities. Did you comment on those too? Of course not. www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/01/trump-cog-decline/548759/The problem w/TFG wasn't his weirdities in moving it was HIS VITRIOL, HIS SCUMMY BEHAVIOR, HIS BRUTISHNESS. Hope that helps. It's not normal for him. Really. Find anything from even 5 years ago that aligns with this type of standing in a trance like that with his arms in such an unnatural position. Anything similar. Please link us to your previous derogatory comments on Trump needing two hands to lift a glass of water to his mouth, and a general to hold his arm as they walked slowly down a very slightly sloped ramp, which he later described as “running.” Let’s hear your mockery of the time he got off AF1 and then walked right past the car that was waiting for him with open door at the foot of the stairs and wandered off aimlessly. Secret Service had to go get him and redirect him to the car. How about that time he wouldn’t let go of French President Macron’s hand for pretty much forever? No? Then please don’t go around cherry-picking Biden’s minor weirdnesses. |
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Post by alitheia on Oct 28, 2021 16:27:00 GMT
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Post by lucyg on Oct 28, 2021 16:27:24 GMT
Of course not. He's aging - like all of us. Was TFG's shuffling and two-handed drinking "normal for him"?
Yes! That's what people are saying. And he's visibly mentally declining as he does. Which affects his ability to run a country. And yet, you were fine with supporting a visibly failing 75yo with no moral compass.The key is Biden's policies and his execution and his care for Americans. Biden's policies suck. His execution sucks. His care for Americans suck. He's divisive. He's pitting part of the country against the other part. Not even going to waste my breath on this one.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2021 16:28:01 GMT
Of course not. He's aging - like all of us. Was TFG's shuffling and two-handed drinking "normal for him"?
Yes! That's what people are saying. And he's visibly mentally declining as he does. Which affects his ability to run a country. The key is Biden's policies and his execution and his care for Americans. Biden's policies suck. His execution sucks. His care for Americans suck. He's divisive. He's pitting part of the country against the other part. Nope He may be PHYSICALLY declining. Where do you get "mentally declining"? Oh, right out of your hindquarters.
I'll leave your observations of Biden alone as you're showing your true colors and those w/common decency can see them brightly.
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Post by Just T on Oct 28, 2021 16:31:15 GMT
"He's divisive. He's pitting part of the country against the other part."  Rich coming from someone who adored the president who has been the most divisive president in my adult lifetime. Thanks for the laugh. I needed that today. |
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 28, 2021 16:52:42 GMT
It's not normal for him. Really. Find anything from even 5 years ago that aligns with this type of standing in a trance like that with his arms in such an unnatural position. Anything similar. Please link us to your previous derogatory comments on Trump needing two hands to lift a glass of water to his mouth, and a general to hold his arm as they walked slowly down a very slightly sloped ramp, which he later described as “running.” Let’s hear your mockery of the time he got off AF1 and then walked right past the car that was waiting for him with open door at the foot of the stairs and wandered off aimlessly. Secret Service had to go get him and redirect him to the car. How about that time he wouldn’t let go of French President Macron’s hand for pretty much forever? No? Then please don’t go around cherry-picking Biden’s minor weirdnesses. The difference is I wasn't here dismissing it and bashing anyone who brought any of that up. I'll point out whatever I want to about Biden. |
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 28, 2021 16:56:11 GMT
Yes! That's what people are saying. And he's visibly mentally declining as he does. Which affects his ability to run a country. Biden's policies suck. His execution sucks. His care for Americans suck. He's divisive. He's pitting part of the country against the other part. Nope He may be PHYSICALLY declining. Where do you get "mentally declining"? Oh, right out of your hindquarters.
I'll leave your observations of Biden alone as you're showing your true colors and those w/common decency can see them brightly.
Thanks.
I've shown enough examples by now for you to realize what a dumb question that is. And noticing that the president may not really be capable of running a country at this point is not indecent in the slightest. That's a national security threat. |
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