sassyangel
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Post by sassyangel on Oct 28, 2021 20:48:24 GMT
Lol the alts are coming out of the woodwork now. đ
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 28, 2021 20:50:23 GMT
I was just reading updates on the latest cluster that is Congress. I think the presidency is a tough job and have been in favor of age limits since Reagan. I think Biden is a decent, hardworking, president who truly cares about our country. But he's way out of his depth as the head of the Democratic Party. As much as people want to bitch about the Republicans, his own party is doing him no favors. And it's more than just Manchin and Sinema - the progressives never should have held up the Infrastructure bill for leverage on the spending bill. Now they just look like they can't govern - and it's not a good look heading into 2022. I don't know who could actually get the party to pull in the same direction with some kind of discipline, but they better find that person fast as the midterms are going to be a disaster and it does not bode well for 2024 which will be here so damn early as our presidential primary/races are FOREVER - and I for one have absolutely no interest in Trump v2. Something Iâve been thinking about all morning as I have the news on in the backgroundâŠwhy is all of the focus on democrats and their governingâ? Why are the republicans let off the hook here in regards to getting bills passed? Exactly. None of the Republicans will vote for the bigger infrastructure bill and all of the blame is falling on Manchin & Sinema. They do deserve some of the blame, but its shared with the 50 Republicans voting no and telling lies about it. The PACs putting out ads against the bill are also guilty for spreading a lot of lies and misinformation. The Republicans are responsible for blocking even a discussion on voting rights. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 28, 2021 20:55:41 GMT
spottiedottieThe Republican is Youngkin, see I pay attention! Do you have any suggestion to activate the Republicans in the Senate, mainly, and House too, to have them pass needed legislation and also very importantly Ambassadors for most of countries needed around the world. The Senate has only approved TWO in all these months and they were former Senators. Two have been held over from the previous administration. We really do need the other counties Ambassadors approved.
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Post by lucyg on Oct 28, 2021 20:59:15 GMT
I have gone through over two weeks of my posts, and it shows that I posted the âsealioningâ link in the vaccine mandates thread two weeks ago. I posted it again yesterday, I believe in the same thread. At no time did I call you a troll, and I did not post it at all in this thread. Sealioning is a type of troll? You were referring to me when mentioning sealioning? What I did find in that review, though, is a perfect example of exactly what Iâve been saying about both your posts and mine. Go back and reread that vaccine mandates thread. It is full of you posting the same unsubstantiated claims, which we refute with links to legitimate sources such as the CDC, and then you continue to post the same claims, slightly reworded, over and over again. We post the same responses, sometimes with more substantiation, and you claim we arenât answering your questions, and ask again. So, despite your tying up "your" actions up with a silk bow and throwing garbage on my actions, we are all doing the same thing and we both feel justified in doing so. No one expects you to accept our opinions just because theyâre our opinions. We give you evidence for our claims, you insist there are multiple studies to refute them, but you either refuse to supply links, or give us ONE, and it is dated, limited, and has been cast in doubt. I wouldnât even insist that your POV will never be validated, it may be eventually, but so far it hasnât been, and no matter how many times you claim no one has answered your question ⊠yes, it has been answered, with legitimate, authoritative studies to back us up. You just donât want to accept it. All righty then. But donât be surprised that very few people agree with you or accept your claims. About the vaccine mandates, "I don't think companies should be inserting themselves into their employees' medical decisions at all." pretty much sums up how I feel. Youâre entitled to your opinion on the subject. But that wasnât what you were disputing in the thread. You were very insistent that acquired natural immunity is equivalent to vaccine-conferred immunity, and said there were multiple experts to back up your claims. You were provided with multiple legitimate sources refuting that, but you continued to make the same claim, while refusing to provide sources to support your claim of âexperts,â âstudies,â etc., (i.e., with an S at the end) that agreed with you. And all the rest of what Iâve already said. No one else needs to hear it again. Whatever, I need to go out now. Have at it. |
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 28, 2021 21:01:58 GMT
because she posts false equivalencies, false comparisons and uses a lot of other Republican tactics. Nope. "false equivalencies, false comparisons" is your excuse for dismissing my opinions, when those labels "false equivalencies, false comparisons" are still nothing but your OPINION. She's deliberately obtuse, refuses to acknowledge when she's wrong, I refuse to acknowledge when I'm wrong, when I don't think I am. You and every single other person here does the same. The problem is you think just because you think something, that automatically makes it true. she claims lots of things but never backs them up with facts, A scroll through my posts (link) will show that's an outright, blatant lie. Many of us tried to point out there's a difference between acquired immunity and immunity from the vaccines. She just ignored those posts and kept arguing. I didn't ignore them, I responded to them with info that other doctors and scientists think otherwise. And not chiropractors as Lucy dismissed them as. Your words show that you seem to be under the very... extremely, misguided impression that what you think is gospel. It isn't. People don't HAVE to shut up because you said they're wrong. They just may have more info or another thought to convey. Our frustration with her isn't just from this thread, its from her history. "My history" doesn't happen in a vacuum. I've had completely rational, respectful on both sides, discussions with people who vehemently disagree with me. They even complemented me on being respectful. So, maybe also take a look at what I'm responding to. |
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 28, 2021 21:04:46 GMT
Just because someone has qualms/questions/criticisms of Joe Biden doesn't make them a rabid Trump supporter, as many on this board insist. It's possible for someone to dislike Trump and also be able to see Biden's issues at the same time. Biden's poll numbers are tanking. Fivethirtyeight.com has his disapproval at 51% today. Those are horrible numbers and the DNC knows it. 51% means there are Biden voters who disapprove of the job he's doing. There's no good way to spin that. Virginia is a blue state that Biden won by over 10 points a year ago. Now, Terry McAuliffe is running for governor again and just a few weeks ago was expected to win easily. Now it looks like the Republican has a good shot. Biden is bringing the whole party down. I really think the Dems are going to lose big in the mid-terms and Biden will be largely responsible for it. ETA: 2 weeks ago the polls in Virginia showed McAuliffe ahead by 52 to 41. Today it's 47.6 to 46.1, just a 1.5% difference. And that's AFTER Obama and Biden campaigned for McAuliffe. I think many of the Democrats on this board recognize and acknowledge some of the mistakes that President Biden has made. The withdrawal from Afghanistan was a disaster. I think the situation with the French & Australians over deals for nuclear submarines could have been handled better. President Biden's poll numbers are terrible and the Democrats are in serious trouble if they can't pass significant, meaningful legislation in the next month. And the Virginia race is a concern that it's as close as it is. All of those are fair, legitimate points. But questioning his mental acuity? Or suggesting someone is pulling his puppet strings? Those are simply Republican talking points. Any trying to suggest that Merrick Garland called parents domestic terrorists is simply false. I'm not referring to your post but other posts on the thread. |
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 28, 2021 21:04:56 GMT
Sealioning is a type of troll? You were referring to me when mentioning sealioning? So, despite your tying up "your" actions up with a silk bow and throwing garbage on my actions, we are all doing the same thing and we both feel justified in doing so. About the vaccine mandates, "I don't think companies should be inserting themselves into their employees' medical decisions at all." pretty much sums up how I feel. Youâre entitled to your opinion on the subject. But that wasnât what you were disputing in the thread. You were very insistent that acquired natural immunity is equivalent to vaccine-conferred immunity, and said there were multiple experts to back up your claims. You were provided with multiple legitimate sources refuting that, but you continued to make the same claim, while refusing to provide sources to support your claim of âexperts,â âstudies,â etc., (i.e., with an S at the end) that agreed with you. And all the rest of what Iâve already said. No one else needs to hear it again. Whatever, I need to go out now. Have at it. I didn't refuse to provide sources. I provided sources and one was already well known and didn't need to be linked. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2021 21:11:56 GMT
They still are. There are plenty of peas discussing and backing assertions w/reputable sources. Again, my example above shows that I and others are fine w/acknowledging issues even where we are in agreement w/overall direction or approach. I try not to call out people (ad hominems), but I do call out opinions and actions as stupid or uninformed or vapid or.... I find I can have discussions w/peas who believe differently, as long as they back their beliefs w/data, evidence that is reputable and/or peer-reviewed. I wonder if you stop to really read and consider. Or do you lump it all in w/"frothing". If the post is not about backing up the opinion or giving arguments as to why they feel the way that they do then I am not bothering reading it because it is not adding value to the discussion. I love to hear why people believe what they do on an issue and/or passionate about a political issue. I love having my ideology challenged so at the very least I can understand the opposite perspective. Having a better understanding of both sides makes me feel more informed. Same.
So there's plenty of discussion to be had - as long as people are backing up opinions w/evidence, data, reality, etc.
There aren't always "both sides" - there are sometimes 100 sides. And sometimes only 1.
"Both sides" is a fallacy.
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 28, 2021 21:16:35 GMT
Just because someone has qualms/questions/criticisms of Joe Biden doesn't make them a rabid Trump supporter, as many on this board insist. It's possible for someone to dislike Trump and also be able to see Biden's issues at the same time. Biden's poll numbers are tanking. Fivethirtyeight.com has his disapproval at 51% today. Those are horrible numbers and the DNC knows it. 51% means there are Biden voters who disapprove of the job he's doing. There's no good way to spin that. Virginia is a blue state that Biden won by over 10 points a year ago. Now, Terry McAuliffe is running for governor again and just a few weeks ago was expected to win easily. Now it looks like the Republican has a good shot. Biden is bringing the whole party down. I really think the Dems are going to lose big in the mid-terms and Biden will be largely responsible for it. ETA: 2 weeks ago the polls in Virginia showed McAuliffe ahead by 52 to 41. Today it's 47.6 to 46.1, just a 1.5% difference. And that's AFTER Obama and Biden campaigned for McAuliffe. Except that itâs almost certainly going to be Trump or DeSantis in 24. Trump is the de facto head of the R party at the moment. And much of the R party is supporting Trumpâs lies about the election. Those lies have been hugely problematic this past year. So even if you donât like Trump, a lot of people in your party are still treating him as the boss. Biden was not my first choice, and yes, I have issues with Dems. But not nearly as many as I have with Republicans. I believe that at this point in time Republicans are a danger to this Republic. Yep, it sounds hyperbolic unless you consider Trump and the Rs who have continued to lick his golf shoes. |
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Post by jayfab on Oct 28, 2021 21:22:12 GMT
Of course not. He's aging - like all of us. Was TFG's shuffling and two-handed drinking "normal for him"?
Yes! That's what people are saying. And he's visibly mentally declining as he does. Which affects his ability to run a country. The key is Biden's policies and his execution and his care for Americans. Biden's policies suck. His execution sucks. His care for Americans suck. He's divisive. He's pitting part of the country against the other part. I really can't stop laughing. Not once have I heard him say anything even as close to divisive as TFG. |
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Post by Laurie on Oct 28, 2021 21:29:37 GMT
If the post is not about backing up the opinion or giving arguments as to why they feel the way that they do then I am not bothering reading it because it is not adding value to the discussion. I love to hear why people believe what they do on an issue and/or passionate about a political issue. I love having my ideology challenged so at the very least I can understand the opposite perspective. Having a better understanding of both sides makes me feel more informed. Same.
So there's plenty of discussion to be had - as long as people are backing up opinions w/evidence, data, reality, etc.
There aren't always "both sides" - there are sometimes 100 sides. And sometimes only 1.
"Both sides" is a fallacy.
As I am aging I find myself evolving differently when it comes to political issues and quite honestly neither party at the moment really aligns with me. |
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Post by maryland on Oct 28, 2021 21:31:56 GMT
I am so happy Joe Biden is president!
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 28, 2021 21:46:55 GMT
Just because someone has qualms/questions/criticisms of Joe Biden doesn't make them a rabid Trump supporter, as many on this board insist. It's possible for someone to dislike Trump and also be able to see Biden's issues at the same time. Biden's poll numbers are tanking. Fivethirtyeight.com has his disapproval at 51% today. Those are horrible numbers and the DNC knows it. 51% means there are Biden voters who disapprove of the job he's doing. There's no good way to spin that. Virginia is a blue state that Biden won by over 10 points a year ago. Now, Terry McAuliffe is running for governor again and just a few weeks ago was expected to win easily. Now it looks like the Republican has a good shot. Biden is bringing the whole party down. I really think the Dems are going to lose big in the mid-terms and Biden will be largely responsible for it. ETA: 2 weeks ago the polls in Virginia showed McAuliffe ahead by 52 to 41. Today it's 47.6 to 46.1, just a 1.5% difference. And that's AFTER Obama and Biden campaigned for McAuliffe. Where you and others lose credibility is the fact that none of you spoke/speak out about Trump and other republicans who have and continue to do deplorable things. So when you jump in to point out all that You think Biden is doing, it seems pretty disingenuous. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 28, 2021 21:50:04 GMT
Same.
So there's plenty of discussion to be had - as long as people are backing up opinions w/evidence, data, reality, etc. There aren't always "both sides" - there are sometimes 100 sides. And sometimes only 1. "Both sides" is a fallacy.
As I am aging I find myself evolving differently when it comes to political issues and quite honestly neither party at the moment really aligns with me. I understand that. I have issues with Rs and Ds. As I said above, at this moment, I am going with the ones who, whatever their faults(and yeah, there are faults), are not an autocrat-supporting band of obstructionist lickspittles. |
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Post by sassyangel on Oct 28, 2021 21:53:08 GMT
Same.
So there's plenty of discussion to be had - as long as people are backing up opinions w/evidence, data, reality, etc.
There aren't always "both sides" - there are sometimes 100 sides. And sometimes only 1.
"Both sides" is a fallacy.
As I am aging I find myself evolving differently when it comes to political issues and quite honestly neither party at the moment really aligns with me. I understand this. I think most of us do. I have moved more progressive than I was. I donât see myself in the middle though. Not anymore. Simply because one of the foundations of a functioning and stable democracy is that one party must be willing to concede defeat/loss in an election. For the first in 150 years, that foundation is very much under threat - not by invading forces - but by an existing political party. I donât think the democrats are perfect. I have my own issues with more than a few of them currently, especially at the congressional level, but I truly feel like the threat to the democracy is more important. I do think that threat colors a lot of political discourse. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 28, 2021 21:53:24 GMT
Just because someone has qualms/questions/criticisms of Joe Biden doesn't make them a rabid Trump supporter, as many on this board insist. It's possible for someone to dislike Trump and also be able to see Biden's issues at the same time. Biden's poll numbers are tanking. Fivethirtyeight.com has his disapproval at 51% today. Those are horrible numbers and the DNC knows it. 51% means there are Biden voters who disapprove of the job he's doing. There's no good way to spin that. Virginia is a blue state that Biden won by over 10 points a year ago. Now, Terry McAuliffe is running for governor again and just a few weeks ago was expected to win easily. Now it looks like the Republican has a good shot. Biden is bringing the whole party down. I really think the Dems are going to lose big in the mid-terms and Biden will be largely responsible for it. ETA: 2 weeks ago the polls in Virginia showed McAuliffe ahead by 52 to 41. Today it's 47.6 to 46.1, just a 1.5% difference. And that's AFTER Obama and Biden campaigned for McAuliffe. Where you and others lose credibility is the fact that none of you spoke/speak out about Trump and other republicans who have and continue to do deplorable things. So when you jump in to point out all that You think Biden is doing, it seems pretty disingenuous. This is an excellent point. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 28, 2021 22:46:06 GMT
You applied the sealioning troll definition in response to me the other day. You did it again today and tagged me so I wouldn't miss it. The frothing notation said TO me is a personal attack and no amount of semantics will change that. I and many others would really love to discuss topics here. How about if you let people disagree with you and realize that if you come back with another response, that they can too? Without deserving a personal attack for not just sitting down and shutting up because "you" spoke. Especially when they back up their statements with facts. Certain people think that "we have told you" is a valid proof of their position. It isn't. This is supposed to be a back and forth. I have gone through over two weeks of my posts, and it shows that I posted the âsealioningâ link in the vaccine mandates thread two weeks ago. I posted it again yesterday, I believe in the same thread. At no time did I call you a troll, and I did not post it at all in this thread. What I did find in that review, though, is a perfect example of exactly what Iâve been saying about both your posts and mine. Go back and reread that vaccine mandates thread. It is full of you posting the same unsubstantiated claims, which we refute with links to legitimate sources such as the CDC, and then you continue to post the same claims, slightly reworded, over and over again. We post the same responses, sometimes with more substantiation, and you claim we arenât answering your questions, and ask again. THAT is how you ended up with the âsealioningâ link in that thread. No one expects you to accept our opinions just because theyâre our opinions. We give you evidence for our claims, you insist there are multiple studies to refute them, but you either refuse to supply links, or give us ONE, and it is dated, limited, and has been cast in doubt. I wouldnât even insist that your POV will never be validated, it may be eventually, but so far it hasnât been, and no matter how many times you claim no one has answered your question ⊠yes, it has been answered, with legitimate, authoritative studies to back us up. You just donât want to accept it. All righty then. But donât be surprised that very few people agree with you or accept your claims. Yes! Yes! Yes! 1,000,000 times YES! Yes! Yes! Yes! 1,000,000 times YES! Yes! Yes! Yes! 1,000,000 times YES! Yes! Yes! Yes! 1,000,000 times YES! Yes! Yes! Yes! 1,000,000 times YES! Yes! Yes! Yes! 1,000,000 times YES! Yes! Yes! Yes! 1,000,000 times YES! Yes! Yes! Yes! 1,000,000 times YES! Yes! Yes! Yes! 1,000,000 times YES! Yes! Yes! Yes! 1,000,000 times YES! Yes! Yes! Yes! 1,000,000 times YES! Yes! Yes! Yes! 1,000,000 times YES! |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 28, 2021 22:51:54 GMT
I have gone through over two weeks of my posts, and it shows that I posted the âsealioningâ link in the vaccine mandates thread two weeks ago. I posted it again yesterday, I believe in the same thread. At no time did I call you a troll, and I did not post it at all in this thread. Sealioning is a type of troll? You were referring to me when mentioning sealioning? What I did find in that review, though, is a perfect example of exactly what Iâve been saying about both your posts and mine. Go back and reread that vaccine mandates thread. It is full of you posting the same unsubstantiated claims, which we refute with links to legitimate sources such as the CDC, and then you continue to post the same claims, slightly reworded, over and over again. We post the same responses, sometimes with more substantiation, and you claim we arenât answering your questions, and ask again. So, despite your tying up "your" actions up with a silk bow and throwing garbage on my actions, we are all doing the same thing and we both feel justified in doing so. No one expects you to accept our opinions just because theyâre our opinions. We give you evidence for our claims, you insist there are multiple studies to refute them, but you either refuse to supply links, or give us ONE, and it is dated, limited, and has been cast in doubt. I wouldnât even insist that your POV will never be validated, it may be eventually, but so far it hasnât been, and no matter how many times you claim no one has answered your question ⊠yes, it has been answered, with legitimate, authoritative studies to back us up. You just donât want to accept it. All righty then. But donât be surprised that very few people agree with you or accept your claims. About the vaccine mandates, "I don't think companies should be inserting themselves into their employees' medical decisions at all." pretty much sums up how I feel. Yet you support politicians who think itâs perfectly fine in legislate a womanâs body and interfere with medical care. You support politicians who think LBGTQ should be eradicated off the earth. Who think itâs disgusting. You support politicians who have multiple wives, sexual predators, corrupt whole in office yet no republicans will vote their own out of office /censor/step downâinstead itâs celebrated. Hypocrite. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 28, 2021 22:53:38 GMT
Just because someone has qualms/questions/criticisms of Joe Biden doesn't make them a rabid Trump supporter, as many on this board insist. It's possible for someone to dislike Trump and also be able to see Biden's issues at the same time. Biden's poll numbers are tanking. Fivethirtyeight.com has his disapproval at 51% today. Those are horrible numbers and the DNC knows it. 51% means there are Biden voters who disapprove of the job he's doing. There's no good way to spin that. Virginia is a blue state that Biden won by over 10 points a year ago. Now, Terry McAuliffe is running for governor again and just a few weeks ago was expected to win easily. Now it looks like the Republican has a good shot. Biden is bringing the whole party down. I really think the Dems are going to lose big in the mid-terms and Biden will be largely responsible for it. ETA: 2 weeks ago the polls in Virginia showed McAuliffe ahead by 52 to 41. Today it's 47.6 to 46.1, just a 1.5% difference. And that's AFTER Obama and Biden campaigned for McAuliffe. Yet why is it so hard for republicans to admit that a large part of the reason is because republicans in congress are ranking everything the administration is trying to do tor the people (and not the pickets of the politicians)? Ironic? Coincidence? |
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Post by spottiedottie on Oct 28, 2021 23:02:41 GMT
So when you jump in to point out all that You think Biden is doing, it seems pretty disingenuous. Joe Biden is the President of the United States. His behavior is the topic of this thread. How is it "disingenuous jumping in" to participate in a 5 page discussion about him? So even if you donât like Trump, a lot of people in your party are still treating him as the boss. It's not my party. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 28, 2021 23:05:12 GMT
I'm going to preface this by saying...I voted Republican in the presidential election up until 2016. I worked for Republicans in my state legislature as an aide for years. So I was there,at least in the middle. The problem is that Republicans have no ideas anymore. Obama's presidency really showed me that. On policy matters they've become nothing but a party of obstructionists. I worked at the state level and for a while there were compromises and ideas at that more localized level. I left at the end of 2008 because it just wasn't there anymore. If you want to have a discussion, fine. I'm all about it. But name three issues upon which the Republicans are actively pushing legislation at a national level that will result in any kind of overall improvement in the quality of life of Americans. If you can come up with that, then I'm sure you'd get the peas to discuss it civilly for the most part. (There will always be outliers). I am quoting this because this post was a sincere attempt at having a reasonable discussion and Gia conveniently slides right on by it. She absolutely is incapable of having an intelligent discussion and we all know that. She is a seriously disturbed individual. Why on earth anyone wants to go back and forth with her is beyond me. |
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Post by spottiedottie on Oct 28, 2021 23:05:30 GMT
Yet why is it so hard for republicans to admit that a large part of the reason is because republicans in congress are ranking everything the administration is trying to do tor the people (and not the pickets of the politicians)? Sorry, I don't understand this question. |
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Post by onelasttime on Oct 28, 2021 23:08:11 GMT
âWhat I know about dementia patients â so does this mean that you are an expert and can diagnose people from afar? Letâs talk about the Americans still in Afghanistan. Maybe you can answer this question. In 2020 trump signed an agreement with a terrorist group known as the Taliban that in part said the United States Military would be out of Afghanistan by 5-1-2021. That was the first notice to Americans in the country the United States military was pulling out of Afghanistan. trump lost the election so I can understand Americans in Afghanistan might wonder if President Biden was going to stick to trumpâs date of 5-1-2021. But still by November or December the folks wanting to leave should have had an idea/plan forming on how to do it if they wanted to be out of Afghanistan by trumpâs date. Then in April President Biden announced the United States Military would be leaving not on May 1, but 9-11-2021. That was at least 4 full months to leave by 9/11 and the second notice the United States Military was leaving. So my question is why were there Americans who wanted to leave Afghanistan still there by the end of August? What stopped them from leaving? I mean they were American Citizens and planes were flying out of Afghanistan so why were they still there? Anyone know? As to the green card holders they have to be vetted by the State Department and thanks to trumpâs policies a number of State Department officials left during trumpâs time and hadnât been fully replaced by the Biden Administration. Add to that Ted Cruz has been busily putting holds on individuals up for appointment not only for the State Department but the Treasury Department as well. Apparently he has a problem with a gas pipeline from Russia to Germany. So itâs taking longer then normally would. An individual has a right to voice their opinion on a subject to officials. But they do not have a right to threaten these officials with violence if they donât see things the way these individuals want them to. When one start threatening people with violence over wearing a mask or teaching the truth in schools then they are pretty darn close to crossing the line that makes them domestic terrorist. There is a saying that I think is disgusting and itâs âIf youâve seen one then you have seen them allâ. No woman should be raped and itâs especially egregious when itâs a teenage girl. But to say every transgender youth who identifies as a women is a budding rapist is ridiculous. A rapist is going to rape and it doesnât matter who they are. The reality is a school boy or any number of men could have followed that girl into a restroom and raped her. As to the Southern Border. Got a plan? People love to look a very complex issues and think there is some simplistic plan that will solve the problem like sending the Vice President of the United States to stand at the banks of the Rio Grande for a photo op. There problem solved. If only it were that easy. |
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Oct 28, 2021 23:10:45 GMT
twinsmomfla99..... My t-shirt says person woman man camera TV đđ I guess that is evidence of my âmental declineâ LOL. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 28, 2021 23:10:57 GMT
So when you jump in to point out all that You think Biden is doing, it seems pretty disingenuous. Joe Biden is the President of the United States. His behavior is the topic of this thread. How is it "disingenuous jumping in" to participate in a 5 page discussion about him? So even if you donât like Trump, a lot of people in your party are still treating him as the boss. It's not my party. Fine; âa lot of people in the other partyâ will suffice. |
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Post by spottiedottie on Oct 28, 2021 23:18:30 GMT
But questioning his mental acuity? I daresay every president has had his mental acuity questioned. Every one of them. Joe Biden is the oldest president we've ever had. He will be 79 in less than a month. Wondering about his mental state is not an extreme reaction, or a Republican talking point, or anything else other than American citizens discussing legitimate concerns about their president. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 28, 2021 23:23:54 GMT
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Post by Laurie on Oct 28, 2021 23:24:57 GMT
I'm going to preface this by saying...I voted Republican in the presidential election up until 2016. I worked for Republicans in my state legislature as an aide for years. So I was there,at least in the middle. The problem is that Republicans have no ideas anymore. Obama's presidency really showed me that. On policy matters they've become nothing but a party of obstructionists. I worked at the state level and for a while there were compromises and ideas at that more localized level. I left at the end of 2008 because it just wasn't there anymore. If you want to have a discussion, fine. I'm all about it. But name three issues upon which the Republicans are actively pushing legislation at a national level that will result in any kind of overall improvement in the quality of life of Americans. If you can come up with that, then I'm sure you'd get the peas to discuss it civilly for the most part. (There will always be outliers). I am quoting this because this post was a sincere attempt at having a reasonable discussion and Gia conveniently slides right on by it. She absolutely is incapable of having an intelligent discussion and we all know that. She is a seriously disturbed individual. Why on earth anyone wants to go back and forth with her is beyond me. Okay, that was my post so not sure where Gia came from. I also assume you are not saying I am a disturbed individual because I canât think of anything I have ever posted that would give that impression. Jeremysgirl: Honestly how I feel is that neither party is trying to put forth something that is truly what is best for the American people. It seems like agendas are being pushed. I was frustrated a few years ago when Republicans had the control of House and Senate and nothing got done. I donât fault Biden necessarily on things not getting done because senators and reps are too busy having pissing matches with one another so it canât be put on Biden solely. My only thought though is Obama would have been more successful. His party seemed to buy into him more than they are for Biden. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 28, 2021 23:26:42 GMT
I am quoting this because this post was a sincere attempt at having a reasonable discussion and Gia conveniently slides right on by it. She absolutely is incapable of having an intelligent discussion and we all know that. She is a seriously disturbed individual. Why on earth anyone wants to go back and forth with her is beyond me. Okay, that was my post so not sure where Gia came from. I also assume you are not saying I am a disturbed individual because I canât think of anything I have ever posted that would give that impression. Jeremysgirl: Honestly how I feel is that neither party is trying to put forth something that is truly what is best for the American people. It seems like agendas are being pushed. I was frustrated a few years ago when Republicans had the control of House and Senate and nothing got done. I donât fault Biden necessarily on things not getting done because senators and reps are too busy having pissing matches with one another so it canât be put on Biden solely. My only thought though is Obama would have been more successful. His party seemed to buy into him more than they are for Biden. Laurie, I unsuccessfully tried to eliminate your post. Jeremysgirl is who I was quoting. also, Dixiechick is obviously Gia with a new name. |
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Post by samantha25 on Oct 28, 2021 23:30:17 GMT
But questioning his mental acuity? I daresay every president has had his mental acuity questioned. Every one of them. Joe Biden is the oldest president we've ever had. He will be 79 in less than a month. Wondering about his mental state is not an extreme reaction, or a Republican talking point, or anything else other than American citizens discussing legitimate concerns about their president. Yes... so how is one rated for mental acuity? Let's collect the data and rate/categorize these characteristics. That is what a Quality Management System does, rate and categorize occurrences. Can we all rate videos, stutters, lies, misinformation in categories and compare across ALL of the platforms? Oh, wait, that's data and "science", an evidence-based collation of data. |
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