Biden's CNN town hall, your impressions

Something I’ve been thinking about all morning as I have the news on in the background…why is all of the focus on democrats and their governing”? Why are the republicans let off the hook here in regards to getting bills passed?

There was no name-calling in the quoted text from Lucy.

I do not believe I have called you a troll at any time in this thread or anywhere else in the recent past. Not going to claim it has never, ever happened, but certainly not lately. ETA I have a vague recollection of saying you had to be trolling us, based upon your posting style, at some point in the past.

Describing your posting style as “frothing” is not the same thing as calling you a frother. It describes actions, not people. Not sure if there’s much of a distinction, but since you’re so determined to accuse me of name-calling, at least be accurate about it.

And I, and many others, have provided you with actual facts, data, and reliable sources many times over (probably thousands of times, at this point), which you continue to ignore and just keep posting the same disproved right-wing talking points over and over again, alongside a few vague, dispirited actual facts that may or may not be of any real relevance to the discussion. And then you have the nerve to accuse me (inaccurately) of name-calling because I supposedly can’t produce facts? Just no. That is patently ridiculous. <— still not name calling, but factual, based on the evidence before our eyes

Again…where were you the last administration when TFG fucked over everyone who didn’t kiss his ring?

I know, right!!!

The hypocrisy is so far out there…

Oh please. You do it all the time.

It's amazing to me that people don't know the difference between calling something  "trolling" - describing AN ACTION and calling someONE "a troll" - AN ADHOMINEM.

It is perfectly ok to label actions and behaviors.

It is not ok to call people names based on those actions - even if they do them 80-100% of the time.

Gia, wanna comment?

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I agree that Biden was the Democrats choice and now is not the time to complain that he's not the right Democrat.

On the other hand, as someone who lives in NH with the first primary, something needs to change.  Our state is about 97% white and not representative of the country.  Our votes should not be more important in a primary than someone from CT or New Jersey.

This. Supporting Trump while he lied about who won the election. Congressional Rs have little interest in getting to the bottom of wtf happened on January 6th. Of course R obstructionism in Congress-Mitch is famous for it. Avoiding or lying about the benefits of the Covid vaccine. And they will probably support Trump again in 2024. This is alarming on so many levels.

Look, I am unhappy at the moment with the Congressional Dems; it’s like trying to herd cats. Having said that, most of them do tend to put country over party, which is not something that I can say about Republicans at the moment. I am terrified of letting Republicans back in charge, esp with Trump as President.

So I am voting D for the foreseeable future.

I have gone through over two weeks of my posts, and it shows that I posted the “sealioning” link in the vaccine mandates thread two weeks ago. I posted it again yesterday, I believe in the same thread. At no time did I call you a troll, and I did not post it at all in this thread.

What I did find in that review, though, is a perfect example of exactly what I’ve been saying about both your posts and mine. Go back and reread that vaccine mandates thread. It is full of you posting the same unsubstantiated claims, which we refute with links to legitimate sources such as the CDC, and then you continue to post the same claims, slightly reworded, over and over again. We post the same responses, sometimes with more substantiation, and you claim we aren’t answering your questions, and ask again.

THAT is how you ended up with the “sealioning” link in that thread.

No one expects you to accept our opinions just because they’re our opinions. We give you evidence for our claims, you insist there are multiple studies to refute them, but you either refuse to supply links, or give us ONE, and it is dated, limited, and has been cast in doubt.

I wouldn’t even insist that your POV will never be validated, it may be eventually, but so far it hasn’t been, and no matter how many times you claim no one has answered your question … yes, it has been answered, with legitimate, authoritative studies to back us up. You just don’t want to accept it. All righty then. But don’t be surprised that very few people agree with you or accept your claims. 

If you're concerned about national security, where are your posts with concerns about national security when former was president?  He incited an insurrection.  How's that for a threat to national security?  He was so unhinged, General Milley had a conversation with Nancy Pelosi and Chinese diplomats.  And the $400 million dollar loan that he took out from a foreign bank?  Owing such an enormous sum of money is a huge threat to national security.  He embraced white supremacy.  Domestic terrorism and white supremacy are serious threats to national security.  There are about a million ways and a million examples of how he was a threat to national security.

Your concerns now for national security ring false.

If anyone wants to have a serious, rational discussion, I think many liberals on the board would be willing to debate real issues.  Many of us do not take pixiechick seriously because she posts false equivalencies, false comparisons and uses a lot of other Republican tactics.  She's deliberately obtuse, refuses to acknowledge when she's wrong, she claims lots of things but never backs them up with facts, I could go on forever.  Just look at the recent thread on vaccine mandates.  Many of us tried to point out there's a difference between acquired immunity and immunity from the vaccines.  She just ignored those posts and kept arguing. Our frustration with her isn't just from this thread, its from her history.