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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 30, 2021 13:24:09 GMT
Nope He may be PHYSICALLY declining. Where do you get "mentally declining"? Oh, right out of your hindquarters.
I'll leave your observations of Biden alone as you're showing your true colors and those w/common decency can see them brightly.
Thanks.
I've seen you post exactly ONE youtube compilation of various talking heads around the 2020 election about Biden and his age and gaffes - after I had to ask you twice to cite a source of Biden's mental decline. People have made similar compilations of talking heads detailing the monstrosities of Trump. ONE compilation video does not "lots of facts" make. When you post your opinions, post them along with reputable sources from professors, scientists, doctors, etc. as back up. I showed a video of him in a trance in a bizarre stance in the middle of a televised interview. Straight from THE source. You dismissed it. I showed you a video that I have posted before showing that even democrats and left leaning news are commenting on his MENTAL DECLINE. NOW you move the goal posts (the ever revolving excuses) and NOW say it has to be "from professors, scientists, doctors, etc. as back up." We both know that even IF i were to do your bidding and show you "from professors, scientists, doctors, etc. as back up." (the Obama administration dr HAS commented on it) that you would find a new reason my source doesn't count. You'd move the goal posts again. Hell if there was proof that Biden had said it himself you'd dismiss that too. So, as far as it has to be "from professors, scientists, doctors, etc. as back up" -when you do that for every fact and opinion you post, then you might have a leg to stand on. Until then, you can scroll past my posts or engage in honest discussion. Because as of now you are NOT being honest in your debate. As I've shown with FACTS straight from YOUR posts to back THAT up. Ever the gaslighter… |
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 30, 2021 13:45:45 GMT
You asked me where I got mentally declining. I showed a video of him in a trance in a bizarre stance in the middle of a televised interview. Straight from THE source. You dismissed it. I showed you a video that I have posted before showing that even democrats and left leaning news are commenting on his MENTAL DECLINE. NOW you move the goal posts (the ever revolving excuses) and NOW say it has to be "from professors, scientists, doctors, etc. as back up." We both know that even IF i were to do your bidding and show you "from professors, scientists, doctors, etc. as back up." (the Obama administration dr HAS commented on it) that you would find a new reason my source doesn't count. You'd move the goal posts again. Hell if there was proof that Biden had said it himself you'd dismiss that too. So, as far as it has to be "from professors, scientists, doctors, etc. as back up" -when you do that for every fact and opinion you post, then you might have a leg to stand on. Until then, you can scroll past my posts or engage in honest discussion. Because as of now you are NOT being honest in your debate. As I've shown with FACTS straight from YOUR posts to back THAT up. How do you know those YouTube videos weren’t edited? People are very good at editing videos to tell the story they want to tell instead of the real story.. Nope. you can't keep using that as an excuse. It just isn't true this time. (hint: it usually isn't true. sometimes, but not usually and certainly not as often as it's used as an excuse here)
You mean this guy when you talk about Obama Administration Dr? Personally I think he is a raving lunatic. "Democrats want parents to have NO SAY about what happens in the classroom." They've actually come out and said that. So, not lunacy.
"To them, parents are a THREAT to having TOTAL CONTROL over your life." A bit dramatic, but not lunacy.
"They want to BRAINWASH kids into hating each other and hating their neighbors." We've actually had teachers and students confirm the curriculum is doing that as well as the teacher/employee training. I linked to a letter written by a teacher who had to resign. She described the divisive way they were training the kids to stop asking questions that lead to learning and that there was no input allowed from anyone who objected to that.
So none of his tweet is lunacy.
"I'll NEVER stop fighting for American families!" That's what he was elected to do. So no, still not lunacy.
Even CBS is asking about Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen's proposed $600 IRS reporting requirement for banks.
“You want banks to report transactions of 600 dollars or more? That is what the IRS wants. Does this mean that the government is trying to peek into our pocketbooks? If you want to look at $600 transactions?”
It's not like we didn't see the Obama/Biden administration use the IRS against their political enemies before.
So no, what he says is not lunacy. Really? Quoting scripture is lunacy?You could possibly characterize the first sentence in this tweet as overly dramatic, but it's really hard to get to lunacy since the second sentence is absolutely true and sure makes the third sentence seem true. So, again, not lunacy.
The fact is no matter how many videos you produce as your proof the only people who know for sure about his mental state are his doctor and his wife and maybe close aids. Maybe the VP. Otherwise it’s pure conjecture by those who want it to be true. You're right, it's not proof of a medical diagnosis. I never claimed that it was. It's absolute proof that we (we -meaning people on both sides of the aisle and foreign officials) we see an actual mental decline with our own eyes and hear it with our own ears. It's not conjecture it's very clearly evident and undeniable. You can spin what we see, but even your spin is addressing things that you are seeing and trying to cover for. If you still don't want to see it, ask yourself how you would respond to these things if they were coming from Trump. And if you can answer yourself honestly, that will be a purely defining moment for you. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 13:48:33 GMT
If you still don't want to see it, ask yourself how you would respond to these things if they were coming from Trump. And if you can answer yourself honestly, that will be a purely defining moment for you. I would say the same thing I said about Biden. That it looks like a PHYSICAL decline. Mental declines and physical declines are two separate things and must be proven SEPARATELY. You didn't prove the MENTAL decline that you stated. |
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 30, 2021 13:51:12 GMT
. I showed a video of him in a trance in a bizarre stance in the middle of a televised interview. Straight from THE source. You dismissed it. I showed you a video that I have posted before showing that even democrats and left leaning news are commenting on his MENTAL DECLINE. You did not show a video "in a trance" you showed a video of an odd physical stance.
Your second video, as I stated, was a bunch of talking heads during the campaign nattering about Biden's gaffes. Just as talking heads nattered about Trump's gaffes, 2-handed drinking, shuffling, etc.
Nattering talking heads are NOT "doctors, scientists, professors, etc".
And yes, when I post sources, most often I post sources w/the "doctors, scientists, professors" from reputable publications.
Try again. Okay not a trance, but he's not looking at Anderson when he talks. He's oddly staring straight ahead and holding his arms in an unnatural position. And these people are absolutely not talking about gaffes, they are talking about his mental decline/capability and memory. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 13:56:48 GMT
You did not show a video "in a trance" you showed a video of an odd physical stance.
Your second video, as I stated, was a bunch of talking heads during the campaign nattering about Biden's gaffes. Just as talking heads nattered about Trump's gaffes, 2-handed drinking, shuffling, etc.
Nattering talking heads are NOT "doctors, scientists, professors, etc".
And yes, when I post sources, most often I post sources w/the "doctors, scientists, professors" from reputable publications.
Try again. Okay not a trance, but he's not looking at Anderson when he talks. He's oddly staring straight ahead and holding his arms in an unnatural position. And these people are absolutely not talking about gaffes, they are talking about his mental decline/capability and memory. Just as the nattering talking heads talked about Trump's mental declines when he did all the things mentioned.
So you have gone to the same two videos TWICE each to show what you think is reputable proof. One shows a physical issue w/Biden which I granted PAGES back. One is a collection of nattering talking heads nattering.
If you want to prove MENTAL DECLINE (and not from 2 years ago which is when some the campaign nattering was about and Joe's been president almost a year since) then post EVIDENCE from SCIENTISTS, DOCTORS or PROFESSORS. Not news commentators who have to fill 24/7 airwaves nattering about Biden, Trump and everyone between.
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 30, 2021 14:05:14 GMT
Okay not a trance, but he's not looking at Anderson when he talks. He's oddly staring straight ahead and holding his arms in an unnatural position. And these people are absolutely not talking about gaffes, they are talking about his mental decline/capability and memory. Just as the nattering talking heads talked about Trump's mental declines when he did all the things mentioned.
So you have gone to the same two videos TWICE each to show what you think is reputable proof. One shows a physical issue w/Biden which I granted PAGES back. One is a collection of nattering talking heads nattering.
If you want to prove MENTAL DECLINE (and not from 2 years ago which is when some the campaign nattering was about and Joe's been president almost a year since) then post EVIDENCE from SCIENTISTS, DOCTORS or PROFESSORS. Not news commentators who have to fill 24/7 airwaves nattering about Biden, Trump and everyone between.
Carefully walking down a wet/slippery ramp because he IS damn old and holding a glass with 2 hands instead of one, is no where near the unexplainably mentally odd things Biden is doing. He is forgetting so many things, speaking incoherently, (not the stutter - incoherence) he is rambling on and on about odd things like kids playing with his leg hair. You don't need EVIDENCE from SCIENTISTS, DOCTORS or PROFESSORS to see him doing those things. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 14:21:36 GMT
He is forgetting so many things, speaking incoherently, (not the stutter - incoherence) he is rambling on and on about odd things like kids playing with his leg hair. You don't need EVIDENCE from SCIENTISTS, DOCTORS or PROFESSORS to see him doing those things. Hmmm, speaking incoherently and rambling on and on was Trump's primary way of speaking. Or perhaps you didn't notice that these last 5 years? Covfefe anyone? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 14:27:44 GMT
You don't need EVIDENCE from SCIENTISTS, DOCTORS or PROFESSORS to see him doing those things. You need evidence fro SCIENTISTS, DOCTORS or PROFESSORS to INTERPRET those things. You have no idea if what you call "incoherence" as a lay person, is a sign of anything other than your lack of knowledge of brain science. |
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 30, 2021 14:33:05 GMT
You don't need EVIDENCE from SCIENTISTS, DOCTORS or PROFESSORS to see him doing those things. You need evidence fro SCIENTISTS, DOCTORS or PROFESSORS to INTERPRET those things. You have no idea if what you call "incoherence" as a lay person, is a sign of anything other than your lack of knowledge of brain science. I'm not giving a medical diagnosis, so no, I don't need SCIENTISTS, DOCTORS or PROFESSORS to show and give my opinion. Any more than you all did when you pointed out Trump's mental decline and that he can't read and anything else you gave your opinion on. No one asked you for proof from SCIENTISTS, DOCTORS or PROFESSORS to give your opinions. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 14:38:04 GMT
You need evidence fro SCIENTISTS, DOCTORS or PROFESSORS to INTERPRET those things. You have no idea if what you call "incoherence" as a lay person, is a sign of anything other than your lack of knowledge of brain science. I'm not giving a medical diagnosis, so no, I don't need SCIENTISTS, DOCTORS or PROFESSORS to show and give my opinion. Any more than you all did when you pointed out Trump's mental decline and that he can't read and anything else you gave your opinion on. No one asked you for proof from SCIENTISTS, DOCTORS or PROFESSORS to give your opinions. You're proving my point. I didn't give a diagnosis of Trump. I compared him to Biden's "symptoms" that you cited.
YOU DID posit a diagnosis of MENTAL DECLINE on BIden. I said you have no proof (from scientists, doctors or professors) you just have a video of talking heads. And I said plenty of talking heads said the same thing about Trump.
Sorry you're confused about how reasoning works.
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 30, 2021 14:54:47 GMT
I'm not giving a medical diagnosis, so no, I don't need SCIENTISTS, DOCTORS or PROFESSORS to show and give my opinion. Any more than you all did when you pointed out Trump's mental decline and that he can't read and anything else you gave your opinion on. No one asked you for proof from SCIENTISTS, DOCTORS or PROFESSORS to give your opinions. You're proving my point. I didn't give a diagnosis of Trump. I compared him to Biden's "symptoms" that you cited.
YOU DID posit a diagnosis of MENTAL DECLINE on BIden. I said you have no proof (from scientists, doctors or professors) you just have a video of talking heads. And I said plenty of talking heads said the same thing about Trump.
Sorry you're confused about how reasoning works.
I never claimed it was a medical diagnosis. It's an opinion just like everyone here has offered for the last 5 years about Trump and the last 20 something years about anything and everything else. YOU moved the goal posts FROM "Where do you get "mentally declining"? and I showed you where I got it, TO you need SCIENTISTS, DOCTORS or PROFESSORS to give your opinion. I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with an opinion you don't like. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 14:58:42 GMT
I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with an opinion you don't like. It has nothing to do with whether I like it or not. It has to do with whether you can cite reputable sources that back it or not. So far, not. |
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 30, 2021 15:03:02 GMT
I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with an opinion you don't like. It has nothing to do with whether I like it or not. It has to do with whether you can cite reputable sources that back it or not. So far, not. You asked me where I got that idea from. I showed you. From reputable sources. The Town Hall with Anderson Cooper, Left leaning media and Democrats speaking about it. Reputable sources. So it's clearly the opinion you don't like and you're just pretending that my sources are the issue. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 15:17:52 GMT
It has nothing to do with whether I like it or not. It has to do with whether you can cite reputable sources that back it or not. So far, not. You asked me where I got that idea from. I showed you. From reputable sources. The Town Hall with Anderson Cooper, Left leaning media and Democrats speaking about it. Reputable sources. So it's clearly the opinion you don't like and you're just pretending that my sources are the issue. Thanks for showing anyone still reading this thread (which I assume is not many) that you have absolutely no idea how to have a reasoned discussion or how to support an opinion. I'm out. You've done my work for me. |
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 30, 2021 16:21:58 GMT
Pixiechick, I think you’re misunderstanding or misinterpreting the IRS proposal. The IRS will not be spying on people. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about. www.npr.org/2021/10/25/1048485043/irs-banks-taxes-fight-explainerDespite Republican accusations that the IRS wants to spy on taxpayers, it's important to note that banks would not report individual transactions — just an annual total of deposits and withdrawals.
Under the revised proposal, banks would have to report only on accounts with at least $10,000 in annual deposits or withdrawals, not counting deposits from paychecks or government benefits.Why does the administration want this information? The information would be used to narrow the "tax gap." The Treasury Department estimates that some $600 billion in income taxes that are owed goes uncollected each year, often because taxpayers fail to report their income accurately. Narrowing that gap and collecting more of the taxes that are owed would help Democrats pay for their ambitious agenda. It would also make the tax system more fair. Wage earners have little opportunity to cheat on their taxes because the IRS already knows how much they make. Their income is reported by employers each year on their W-2. The IRS has less information about other kinds of income, though, such as rent paid to landlords or profits earned by business owners. Because that income is less visible to the government, underreporting by those taxpayers is more common. How would the IRS use the bank information? The IRS could look for discrepancies between a taxpayer's total bank deposits and withdrawals and their reported income. If someone's bank account grows by a million dollars in a year when their reported income is just $50,000, the IRS might have a few questions. Deputy Assistant Treasury Secretary Natasha Sarin says bank information would help the IRS target its auditing resources more effectively. But she stresses there's no extra paperwork involved for taxpayers. Also, I think you misquoted Janet Yellen. You can see the interview for yourself. www.cbsnews.com/news/irs-bank-account-update-change-treasury-10000-dollars/www.newsweek.com/janet-yellen-600-irs-transactions-spying-claims-1638481But Yellen defended the proposal on CBS News when asked by anchor Norah O'Donnell if the proposal meant that "the government is trying to peek into our pocketbooks?" "Absolutely not," Yellen said on Tuesday, "I think this proposal has been seriously mischaracterized."
She said the proposal "involved no reporting of individual transactions of any individual.""We have a tax gap that over the next decade is estimated at $7 trillion," Yellen said, "namely, a shortfall in the amount that the IRS is collecting due to a failure of individuals to report the income that they have earned." |
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Post by onelasttime on Oct 30, 2021 17:19:07 GMT
How do you know those YouTube videos weren’t edited? People are very good at editing videos to tell the story they want to tell instead of the real story.. Nope. you can't keep using that as an excuse. It just isn't true this time. (hint: it usually isn't true. sometimes, but not usually and certainly not as often as it's used as an excuse here)
You mean this guy when you talk about Obama Administration Dr? Personally I think he is a raving lunatic. "Democrats want parents to have NO SAY about what happens in the classroom." They've actually come out and said that. So, not lunacy.
"To them, parents are a THREAT to having TOTAL CONTROL over your life." A bit dramatic, but not lunacy.
"They want to BRAINWASH kids into hating each other and hating their neighbors." We've actually had teachers and students confirm the curriculum is doing that as well as the teacher/employee training. I linked to a letter written by a teacher who had to resign. She described the divisive way they were training the kids to stop asking questions that lead to learning and that there was no input allowed from anyone who objected to that.
So none of his tweet is lunacy.
"I'll NEVER stop fighting for American families!" That's what he was elected to do. So no, still not lunacy.
Even CBS is asking about Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen's proposed $600 IRS reporting requirement for banks.
“You want banks to report transactions of 600 dollars or more? That is what the IRS wants. Does this mean that the government is trying to peek into our pocketbooks? If you want to look at $600 transactions?”
It's not like we didn't see the Obama/Biden administration use the IRS against their political enemies before.
So no, what he says is not lunacy. Really? Quoting scripture is lunacy?You could possibly characterize the first sentence in this tweet as overly dramatic, but it's really hard to get to lunacy since the second sentence is absolutely true and sure makes the third sentence seem true. So, again, not lunacy.
The fact is no matter how many videos you produce as your proof the only people who know for sure about his mental state are his doctor and his wife and maybe close aids. Maybe the VP. Otherwise it’s pure conjecture by those who want it to be true. You're right, it's not proof of a medical diagnosis. I never claimed that it was. It's absolute proof that we (we -meaning people on both sides of the aisle and foreign officials) we see an actual mental decline with our own eyes and hear it with our own ears. It's not conjecture it's very clearly evident and undeniable. You can spin what we see, but even your spin is addressing things that you are seeing and trying to cover for. If you still don't want to see it, ask yourself how you would respond to these things if they were coming from Trump. And if you can answer yourself honestly, that will be a purely defining moment for you. Based on your posts I find you to be a naive gullible individual who practices a lot of deliberate ignorance. Are you? While you made a strong case for being deliberately ignorant with your defense of the lunatic above and being gullible with your post about Cruz and the Nazi salute along with your belief videos aren’t edited to present a different picture then was original video provided the fact is I don’t know if you really are a naive gullible individual who practices a lot of deliberate ignorance. And neither do you know anything about President Biden “mental decline” regardless of what you are seeing on the videos or even watching him in real time on tv. You and others are making assumptions just like I was about my description of you based on your posts that I have read. But yet you and other insist on pushing an idea or belief with no verifiable facts to back up your assumptions. |
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 30, 2021 17:45:46 GMT
Even CBS is asking about Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen's proposed $600 IRS reporting requirement for banks.
“You want banks to report transactions of 600 dollars or more? That is what the IRS wants. Does this mean that the government is trying to peek into our pocketbooks? If you want to look at $600 transactions?”
It's not like we didn't see the Obama/Biden administration use the IRS against their political enemies before.
So no, what he says is not lunacy. Lunacy might be open to interpretation. At a minimum, it's false and misinformation. No one is sending federal agents after Americans. An argument could be made that deliberately posting false, grossly exaggerated, misguided claims or misinformation is lunacy. CBS is asking because so many right wing media outlets and morons like this guy have falsely reported on the proposal. Please see my previous post. |
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Post by lucyg on Oct 30, 2021 19:47:25 GMT
Pixiechick is just like most of the typical trumpers. No facts, spin lies, deflect and push buttons for amusement. I enjoy a good debate, but pixie is taking the good out of the debate. Ignore her. That's torturous for the emotionally immature trumpers. And are we sure it's Gia and not Lauren? Or did Lauren return briefly and then vanish again? I can't keep up. Bullshit. Your post is pure and utter bullshit. I post SO many facts and back them up. And more so lately, backed up with democrat and left leaning sources to avoid anyone using the excuse that my sources aren't credible. That doesn't seem to matter though, they still use that excuse along with a revolving loop of ridiculously transparent excuses. I think that's the problem though. There's a certain type of person that can not maturely process having someone provide info that debunks their narrative, no matter who the source and the only way they can emotionally handle it is by vilifying the messenger. I certainly don't lie. I don't deflect or push buttons. So, of course, by all means, please DO ignore me if you can't interact with me without a personal attack.I get as tired of defending myself as you claim you do of me posting. Though I have never, not once, ever, ever, ever started any of this shit. That kinda points to you and your ilk really do enjoy this kind of bullshit. You did not post “left-leaning” sources. You posted extreme far-left commentators (not journalists) who were trying to bring down a Biden nomination or even destroy a Biden presidency. Extremists on either side are equally useless. Actual neutral (or what someone like you might call “left-leaning”) news sources with actual journalistic standards do not publish garbage like that. Actual Democrats do not think or say things like that. It is a favorite, though imaginary, trope of the right that Joe Biden is not in his right mind, and it certainly has a few supporters on the far left, but I doubt you’d like their alternative form of governing, either. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 30, 2021 21:09:21 GMT
When one has nothing valid to say, one swears!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 23:30:46 GMT
When one has nothing valid to say, one swears! Bullshit  I have lots of valid things to say and I swear too. I try to only do it when something's really beyond the pale. Like abusing kids, for example. Otherwise I do try to (#*$(# out the swearing part. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 30, 2021 23:55:18 GMT
Ok.
I don't think she has much of anything valid to cause swearing!
She has yet to go back to the vaccine thread, where I posted facts and tagged her!
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 2, 2021 20:59:43 GMT
The IRS will not be spying on people. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about.In an age where reality is determined by who is doing/saying the thing and right and wrong depends on who is doing/saying the thing, your statement is no longer a true statement. |
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 2, 2021 21:12:34 GMT
Bullshit. Your post is pure and utter bullshit. I post SO many facts and back them up. And more so lately, backed up with democrat and left leaning sources to avoid anyone using the excuse that my sources aren't credible. That doesn't seem to matter though, they still use that excuse along with a revolving loop of ridiculously transparent excuses. I think that's the problem though. There's a certain type of person that can not maturely process having someone provide info that debunks their narrative, no matter who the source and the only way they can emotionally handle it is by vilifying the messenger. I certainly don't lie. I don't deflect or push buttons. So, of course, by all means, please DO ignore me if you can't interact with me without a personal attack.I get as tired of defending myself as you claim you do of me posting. Though I have never, not once, ever, ever, ever started any of this shit. That kinda points to you and your ilk really do enjoy this kind of bullshit. You did not post “left-leaning” sources. You posted extreme far-left commentators (not journalists) who were trying to bring down a Biden nomination or even destroy a Biden presidency. Extremists on either side are equally useless. Actual neutral (or what someone like you might call “left-leaning”) news sources with actual journalistic standards do not publish garbage like that. Actual Democrats do not think or say things like that. It is a favorite, though imaginary, trope of the right that Joe Biden is not in his right mind, and it certainly has a few supporters on the far left, but I doubt you’d like their alternative form of governing, either. You did not post “left-leaning” sources. You posted extreme far-left commentators (not journalists) who were trying to bring down a Biden nomination or even destroy a Biden presidency. Nope. You can dismiss the news people on the clip all you want, and think that dismisses everyone, but there were Democratic politicians in that clip too. Your dismissal doesn't actually dismiss what people, even on the Left, are noticing. |
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 2, 2021 21:15:37 GMT
The IRS will not be spying on people. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about.In an age where reality is determined by who is doing/saying the thing and right and wrong depends on who is doing/saying the thing, your statement is no longer a true statement. Let me rephrase that then. If you are reporting all of your income and not cheating on your taxes, then there's nothing to worry about with the proposal. |
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 2, 2021 22:07:13 GMT
In an age where reality is determined by who is doing/saying the thing and right and wrong depends on who is doing/saying the thing, your statement is no longer a true statement. Let me rephrase that then. If you are reporting all of your income and not cheating on your taxes, then there's nothing to worry about with the proposal. That SHOULD be true. And yet, given the time we are in, I stand by statement. In an age where reality is determined by who is doing/saying the thing and right and wrong depends on who is doing/saying the thing, your statement is no longer a true statement. |
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I have lots of valid things to say and I swear too. I try to only do it when something's really beyond the pale. Like abusing kids, for example. Otherwise I do try to (#*$(# out the swearing part.