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Post by christine58 on May 31, 2015 0:28:01 GMT
The Duggars: Where you go to hell for kissing before marriage or women wearing pants, but God will forgive you if you molest your sister. Yeah it was a joke...forgot the
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Post by rumplesnat on May 31, 2015 0:32:45 GMT
From USA Today article (sorry, can't link from my phone):
The Duggars confirmed the interview on Michelle's blog: "Next week we will sit down with Megyn Kelly on Fox News to share our hearts with you about the pain that we walked through as a family twelve years ago, the tears we all shed and the forgiveness that was given. We appreciate the outpouring of love and prayers for our family at this time."
I'm pretty sure that Michelle's above comment will be repeated over and over by both her and Jim Bob during the entire interview, dodging every other question that may asked and coming right back to this gem of a statement.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 0:45:37 GMT
From USA Today article (sorry, can't link from my phone): The Duggars confirmed the interview on Michelle's blog: "Next week we will sit down with Megyn Kelly on Fox News to share our hearts with you about the pain that we walked through as a family twelve years ago, the tears we all shed and the forgiveness that was given. We appreciate the outpouring of love and prayers for our family at this time." I'm pretty sure that Michelle's above comment will be repeated over and over by both her and Jim Bob during the entire interview, dodging every other question that may asked and coming right back to this gem of a statement.
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Post by jumperhop on May 31, 2015 1:02:49 GMT
and our daughters are to busy cooking and cleaning and caring for their younger siblings to be effected by this. Please don't take are show and our sponsors away, Josh repented." This is the worst/saddest thing I have heard during this debacle. So ignorant and hurtful.
Mary
Interesting, the worst and saddest thing I have heard in this debacle is that a boy sexually abused a handful of his sisters and was not held accountable. The parents did not protect their own daughters, the victims from their abuser and allowed Josh to live at home. But I can totally see how my opinion might come in a close second to the worst thing I have heard on the Duggar Debacle. Sense my sarcasm. I have watched the show enough to be okay with my opinion. Jen
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Post by Skypea on May 31, 2015 1:17:42 GMT
This is the worst/saddest thing I have heard during this debacle. So ignorant and hurtful.
Mary
I don't think the Duggars have actually said those things. I think it was a (very clever) projection by jumperhop. that's how I took it also...
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Post by JBeans on May 31, 2015 1:17:45 GMT
War against family values my ass. I said this on the other thread, forgiveness is an amazing grace that can be extended toward someone who has harmed you. But forgiveness does NOT mean that the person that did the wrong is given a free pass to not be held responsible (legally or morally) for that harm. It frustrates me that people don't see the difference. This isn't an attack by the liberal left against the conservative right, it is an attack on hypocrisy-against those who publicly try to hold the rest of the world to a standard that they believe in all the while behaving differently in private. I don't care what side of the ideological fence you stand on, you can't speak out of both sides of your mouth without getting called on it. This is entirely it, but they don't get that and a great many people don't get that either.
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Post by mlynn on May 31, 2015 1:20:41 GMT
This is the worst/saddest thing I have heard during this debacle. So ignorant and hurtful.
Mary
Interesting, the worst and saddest thing I have heard in this debacle is that a boy sexually abused a handful of his sisters and was not held accountable. The parents did not protect their own daughters, the victims from their abuser and allowed Josh to live at home. But I can totally see how my opinion might come in a close second to the worst thing I have heard on the Duggar Debacle. Sense my sarcasm. I have watched the show enough to be okay with my opinion. Jen To minimize the effects of the abuse to such a point that being busy with chores is sufficient to overcome the effects is horrid. It denies the severity of the occurrence and belittles the experience of the victims. It is tantamount to looking at a rape situation and saying thhe victim is not urt by what happened. They are fine...just look at them. No damage done. I stand by my remark.
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Post by Skypea on May 31, 2015 1:23:46 GMT
War against family values my ass. I said this on the other thread, forgiveness is an amazing grace that can be extended toward someone who has harmed you. But forgiveness does NOT mean that the person that did the wrong is given a free pass to not be held responsible (legally or morally) for that harm. It frustrates me that people don't see the difference. This isn't an attack by the liberal left against the conservative right, it is an attack on hypocrisy-against those who publicly try to hold the rest of the world to a standard that they believe in all the while behaving differently in private. I don't care what side of the ideological fence you stand on, you can't speak out of both sides of your mouth without getting called on it.
yet so many here do... the same ones who attack others for 'judging' are here judging.
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Post by Skypea on May 31, 2015 1:29:44 GMT
Megyn Kelly is no pushover, like Diane Sawyer. If this interview is like others I've seen, the Duggars are not going to get a pass - they better be ready. Please isn't the "Faux" News thing getting a bit old? They are no worse than MSNBC. Watch both and maybe something in the middle is closer to the truth. that's a liberal thing. the drinking of DBO Kool-Aid, to discredit a news channel that dares to say anything unflattering about DBO (like the truth). Fox runs circles around MSNBC and CNN. it hasn't worked but the libs keep up the lip service for DBO.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 1:40:59 GMT
Interesting, the worst and saddest thing I have heard in this debacle is that a boy sexually abused a handful of his sisters and was not held accountable. The parents did not protect their own daughters, the victims from their abuser and allowed Josh to live at home. But I can totally see how my opinion might come in a close second to the worst thing I have heard on the Duggar Debacle. Sense my sarcasm. I have watched the show enough to be okay with my opinion. Jen To minimize the effects of the abuse to such a point that being busy with chores is sufficient to overcome the effects is horrid. It denies the severity of the occurrence and belittles the experience of the victims. It is tantamount to looking at a rape situation and saying thhe victim is not urt by what happened. They are fine...just look at them. No damage done. I stand by my remark. She was making a sarcastic remark like the one about women wearing pants.
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Post by anxiousmom on May 31, 2015 1:47:57 GMT
War against family values my ass. I said this on the other thread, forgiveness is an amazing grace that can be extended toward someone who has harmed you. But forgiveness does NOT mean that the person that did the wrong is given a free pass to not be held responsible (legally or morally) for that harm. It frustrates me that people don't see the difference. This isn't an attack by the liberal left against the conservative right, it is an attack on hypocrisy-against those who publicly try to hold the rest of the world to a standard that they believe in all the while behaving differently in private. I don't care what side of the ideological fence you stand on, you can't speak out of both sides of your mouth without getting called on it.
yet so many here do... the same ones who attack others for 'judging' are here judging.
Nope. That won't work argument won't work here. This isn't judging in as much as it absolute red hot anger that a man who behaved immorally has the audacity to speak against behaviors of others that he sees as immoral. Hypocrisy at it's finest. Again, I said this before-and I know that I am not a Biblical scholar-but forgiveness is a grace extended. And this man is entitled to all the forgiveness that people want to bless him with. But I defy any one to find a Biblical justification for him not being held accountable by the law of the land for illegal actions. Forgiveness is NOT the same thing as absolution of guilt. I am not a very judgmental kind of person. I do, however, have real issues with hypocrisy. I do not want to be preached at by someone who has a different set of standards for me to live by than one's that are chosen for themselves.
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Post by jumperhop on May 31, 2015 1:58:37 GMT
Interesting, the worst and saddest thing I have heard in this debacle is that a boy sexually abused a handful of his sisters and was not held accountable. The parents did not protect their own daughters, the victims from their abuser and allowed Josh to live at home. But I can totally see how my opinion might come in a close second to the worst thing I have heard on the Duggar Debacle. Sense my sarcasm. I have watched the show enough to be okay with my opinion. Jen To minimize the effects of the abuse to such a point that being busy with chores is sufficient to overcome the effects is horrid. It denies the severity of the occurrence and belittles the experience of the victims. It is tantamount to looking at a rape situation and saying thhe victim is not urt by what happened. They are fine...just look at them. No damage done. I stand by my remark. Ack, I am so confused. So you are saying that a victim can't get over being sexually assaulted by staying busy with chores right? I agree with this. Where was the disagreement? This was my point of my post in a sarcastic way. I thought you were saying I was being rude for my judgement of the Duggards view that the girls should do all the housework, make all the meals and raise the younger siblings. Jen
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Post by sunraynnc on May 31, 2015 2:11:41 GMT
Too bad the Duggars put their precious SON over 4 or 5 daughters.
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Post by mystuffandnat on May 31, 2015 2:12:40 GMT
Josh made Time magazine this week...maybe we should bash that too...I will watch the interview only because I hope they are raked over the coals and made to look like the fools they truly are.
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Post by jumperhop on May 31, 2015 2:13:22 GMT
This place hurts my head. Literally! I am having a hard time expressing my thought and typing them out. I come to TwoPeas to learn, discuss and think, in hopes it will help by brain heal. I feel like I am going crazy here sometimes. Jen
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Post by mlynn on May 31, 2015 2:28:53 GMT
jumperhop / Jen,
mea culpa. I do not always get sarcasm - especially online. Sorry.
Mary
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Post by jamielynn on May 31, 2015 2:31:23 GMT
Megyn gives a great interview! I can't wait to see this. Age has no problem correcting her guests and asking tough questions then restating them when the guest brushes around it.
I was a fan of the family before this all broke. I hope they can "see" the situation from all of our point of view soon though an doubtful.
I'd love to see Josh and Anna interview over his criminal past next.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 3:14:47 GMT
I won't watch the interview. I hope they are never interviewed again. I won't buy a magazine that features any duggar. I won't watch reruns, or the spin off show. I won't allow my girls to be exposed to this family again. They were big fans, against my better judgment.
Those who are salivating over the interview, and want more, are contributing to the sensationalism that is making tlc consider keeping this family in the fold.
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Post by jumperhop on May 31, 2015 3:31:20 GMT
jumperhop / Jen, mea culpa. I do not always get sarcasm - especially online. Sorry. Mary I agree it's so hard to get sarcasm online. Anything can easily come across differently depending on how we read it. And i know I need to tone it down. Jen
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Post by femalebusiness on May 31, 2015 3:33:57 GMT
I won't watch the interview. I hope they are never interviewed again. I won't buy a magazine that features any duggar. I won't watch reruns, or the spin off show. I won't allow my girls to be exposed to this family again. They were big fans, against my better judgment. Those who are salivating over the interview, and want more, are contributing to the sensationalism that is making tlc consider keeping this family in the fold. Those of you that are salivating and can't wait to watch that clusterfuck of an interview, know that you are contributing to the disgusting behavior of those people. Normal, decent people wouldn't watch that shit.
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Post by lucyg on May 31, 2015 3:53:31 GMT
I'm a fairly normal, decent person and I may watch it. I want to see what these people have to say for themselves. I wouldn't say I'm "salivating."
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on May 31, 2015 4:11:57 GMT
Normal, decent people wouldn't watch that shit. I'm a fairly normal, decent person and I may watch it. I'm a somewhat normal, decent person and I may watch it. Weirder still, I've never once watched the Duggars' show. Go figure.
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Post by femalebusiness on May 31, 2015 4:16:09 GMT
Normal, decent people wouldn't watch that shit. I'm a fairly normal, decent person and I may watch it. I'm a somewhat normal, decent person and I may watch it. Weirder still, I've never once watched the Duggars' show. Go figure. It's a free country.
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Post by grammanisi on May 31, 2015 4:20:06 GMT
I am a normal, decent person that is not salivating to watch the interview, but I am going to watch it. Why, because I want to see someone hand them their asses in a basket. Megyn Kelly will not fall for the BS they will be spewing. She will ask the hard questions and will not beat around the bush. I am honestly surprised that they will even do an interview with her.
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Post by elaine on May 31, 2015 5:09:47 GMT
I think that the employees of FOX news will do ANYTHING, even interview the Duggars, to keep the focus off of Hastert, face of the Republican Party for so many years, and his millions of dollars in hush money to cover up sexual misconduct with a BOY while he was a teacher.
To some degree it apparently works because we have a thread about the Duggar interview, but not a mention of Hastert and his child molestation and cover up....
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Post by lumo on May 31, 2015 5:13:31 GMT
I think that the employees of FOX news will do ANYTHING, even interview the Duggars, to keep the focus off of Hastert, face of the Republican Party for so many years, and his millions of dollars in hush money to cover up sexual misconduct with a BOY while he was a teacher. To some degree it apparently works because we have a thread about the Duggar interview, but not a mention of Hastert and his pedophilia and cover up.... 100%.
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Post by Jili on May 31, 2015 5:16:46 GMT
I think Megyn Kelly can swing both ways. She can be a tough interviewer, but the pessimist in me that thinks the Duggars are granting an interview with Fox for a reason. Will she have freedom to conduct this interview in any manner that she chooses, or will the unseen powers dictate its tone and direction?
I can't imagine I will watch it, but I admit that I'm interested. I truly do hope that Megyn skewers them. I don't want this to be a top on a redemption tour for Jim Bob and Michelle.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 6:06:42 GMT
Megyn Kelly is no pushover, like Diane Sawyer. If this interview is like others I've seen, the Duggars are not going to get a pass - they better be ready. Please isn't the "Faux" News thing getting a bit old? They are no worse than MSNBC. Watch both and maybe something in the middle is closer to the truth. that's a liberal thing. the drinking of DBO Kool-Aid, to discredit a news channel that dares to say anything unflattering about DBO (like the truth). Fox runs circles around MSNBC and CNN. it hasn't worked but the libs keep up the lip service for DBO.
I don't mind ANY news station saying unflattering things about President Obama if they are true. However it has been demonstrated time and time again that Faux News likes to I don't want to say lie so I'll say twist the facts to make their point. That you and others choose not to acknowledge that kind of makes one think you all are in denial. The fact that Fox as you say runs circles around MSNBC and CNN is nothing to brag about. It's actually pretty pathetic. What it says about the viewers of Fox is either they are not smart enough to know the reporters and guests tend to twist the facts to make their point or they do know and don't care because Fox is telling them what they want to hear. Like I said nothing to brag about. As to the interview. Not interested in watching them try and spin what they did or didn't do. Besides my remote won't let me stop on The Fox channel.
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Post by mlynn on May 31, 2015 8:26:50 GMT
DBO???
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 9:06:48 GMT
The parents of this family sicken me. Do I believe God forgives heinous crimes if the perpatrator accepts Jesus Christ as Savior and asks for forgiveness? And then turns their life around? Yes I do Do I believe victims of heinous crimes can forgive? Yes I do. Do I feel justice was served in this case? No I don't. I feel so sad for the victims, the girls. Not Josh. I even feel sorry for Anna although she went into a marriage knowing all this. She is a victim as well because she was and is brainwashed probably by her own family, then the Duggars. brainwashing n. noun
1. Intensive, forcible indoctrination, usually political or religious, aimed at destroying a person's basic convictions and attitudes and replacing them with an alternative set of fixed beliefs.Children are born with no basic convictions and attitudes. They have to be taught. If the Duggars (and Annas family) are "guilty" of brainwashing their kids, then so are we all. You want to raise your kids to believe your own version of faith, teach them that homosexuality is not a sin, that abortion is AOkay...well, that is entirely your perogative as a parent, isn't it? It's the Duggars perogative to teach their children the opposite. Calling how they raise their kids "brainwashing" is ignorant.
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