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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 9:20:48 GMT
Too bad the Duggars put their precious SON over 4 or 5 daughters. Another ignorant thing to say. How are you reaching this conclusion, exactly? They DID handle the situation. Josh was 14 years old for God's sake. He did have consequences. They did not leave him in the home with the girls. yes, he came back home after a while, but he was separated from them immediately. And, he CONFESSED to it. He begged for help. He was not caught red-handed. He wanted to stop, he knew he was doing wrong, he asked for help, for mercy, for forgiveness. His parents gave all of that to him, and also helped the girls heal as well. Who are you to say they didn't? Just because they didn't call the cops and have their son hauled away? Are they supposed to value girls above boys, in your world? I think they showed that they value all their kids. They got him help, they got them help, and they did everything they could to keep ALL their UNDERAGE children protected from the media and vultures waiting to destroy them. Any GOOD parent would do that. I can't imagine being in their situation, and I certainly can't imagine throwing my son in prison would be the only way to handle the situation. You people (general you, don't know your particular stance for sure) willingly forgive countless middle aged men when they abuse women (Clinton - who is also tied to an underage sex scandal now as well) or even KILL a woman (Ted Kennedy). But God forbid a 14 year old Christian boy make a horrible horrible mistake. Hang him from the rafters! Throw him in prison! Parade those girls out as victims, drag them through it all again, just to satisfy your blood lust. Destroy Josh and his little family, despite the fact that by all accounts he has repented, repaired his relationships, made his apologies, begged for forgiveness and been granted it, and moved on to a productive life. Destruction of everything you disagree with is all you know, isn't it?
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Post by lucyg on May 31, 2015 10:31:54 GMT
The parents of this family sicken me. Do I believe God forgives heinous crimes if the perpatrator accepts Jesus Christ as Savior and asks for forgiveness? And then turns their life around? Yes I do Do I believe victims of heinous crimes can forgive? Yes I do. Do I feel justice was served in this case? No I don't. I feel so sad for the victims, the girls. Not Josh. I even feel sorry for Anna although she went into a marriage knowing all this. She is a victim as well because she was and is brainwashed probably by her own family, then the Duggars. brainwashing n. noun
1. Intensive, forcible indoctrination, usually political or religious, aimed at destroying a person's basic convictions and attitudes and replacing them with an alternative set of fixed beliefs.Children are born with no basic convictions and attitudes. They have to be taught. If the Duggars (and Annas family) are "guilty" of brainwashing their kids, then so are we all. You want to raise your kids to believe your own version of faith, teach them that homosexuality is not a sin, that abortion is AOkay...well, that is entirely your perogative as a parent, isn't it? It's the Duggars perogative to teach their children the opposite. Calling how they raise their kids "brainwashing" is ignorant. It certainly could be brainwashing if they're convincing their daughters that it's A-OK to pretend that being fondled by their older brother didn't happen, doesn't matter, or whatever else is going on in that house, or in the case of his wife, that it's no big deal to marry and have children with a man who has a history of molesting prepubescent children. And really, no one cares that they're Christian. All anyone cares about is that they're (1) pretty miserable hypocrites and (2) possibly protecting their son at the expense of their daughters. I know you kind of get off on the idea that liberals hate Christians, but if you read the Duggar threads, you'll see that many of the peas who are angry about how this has been handled are Christian or conservative or both.
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Post by lucyg on May 31, 2015 11:00:03 GMT
Too bad the Duggars put their precious SON over 4 or 5 daughters. Another ignorant thing to say. How are you reaching this conclusion, exactly? They DID handle the situation. Josh was 14 years old for God's sake. He did have consequences. They did not leave him in the home with the girls. yes, he came back home after a while, but he was separated from them immediately. And, he CONFESSED to it. He begged for help. He was not caught red-handed. He wanted to stop, he knew he was doing wrong, he asked for help, for mercy, for forgiveness. His parents gave all of that to him, and also helped the girls heal as well. Who are you to say they didn't? Just because they didn't call the cops and have their son hauled away? Are they supposed to value girls above boys, in your world? I think they showed that they value all their kids. They got him help, they got them help, and they did everything they could to keep ALL their UNDERAGE children protected from the media and vultures waiting to destroy them. Any GOOD parent would do that. I can't imagine being in their situation, and I certainly can't imagine throwing my son in prison would be the only way to handle the situation. You people (general you, don't know your particular stance for sure) willingly forgive countless middle aged men when they abuse women (Clinton - who is also tied to an underage sex scandal now as well) or even KILL a woman (Ted Kennedy). But God forbid a 14 year old Christian boy make a horrible horrible mistake. Hang him from the rafters! Throw him in prison! Parade those girls out as victims, drag them through it all again, just to satisfy your blood lust. Destroy Josh and his little family, despite the fact that by all accounts he has repented, repaired his relationships, made his apologies, begged for forgiveness and been granted it, and moved on to a productive life. Destruction of everything you disagree with is all you know, isn't it? You're entitled to your apparent belief that everyone who isn't 100% in lockstep with your opinions is ignorant, an idiot, or any of the variety of other insults you like to throw around, but that doesn't make it correct. Being angry and loud and repetitive doesn't make you right, either. I just want to comment on a couple of the above statements. One, Duggar fears of media vultures ... these incidents occurred years before they had a TV show. They were not particularly in the public eye at the time and I doubt the media vultures were waiting around to take them down. So that's an empty claim. Two, "by all accounts" -- no. By Duggar parent accounts. We will never know the full story, and "we" includes you. I don't need to know the full story, myself. I'm not that interested and I actually have no blood lust. I don't care about hanging Josh from the rafters, although I'm glad he quit his tell-other-people-the-acceptable-way-to-live job. What I care about, and what I see others saying they care about (whether they're liberal or conservative, Christian or not) is that the younger girls in his family should have been protected from him; that the young daughters in his new family are protected; that being forgiven by his victims, his family, his church, and theoretically his God is not the same as being forgiven by society, and normally there IS a price to pay for committing crimes; that the girls in the family are given the opportunity to determine for themselves whether they've been damaged and whether they forgive their molester, rather than having that decision made for them by their father (and if that makes me anti-Christian, then so be it); and that a man and a family who cover up this kind of perversion within their own family refrain from making a career of trying to destroy others whom they consider perverts. Logs, planks, eyes, etc.
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Post by Nink on May 31, 2015 11:37:29 GMT
Too bad the Duggars put their precious SON over 4 or 5 daughters. Another ignorant thing to say. How are you reaching this conclusion, exactly? They DID handle the situation. Josh was 14 years old for God's sake. He did have consequences. They did not leave him in the home with the girls. yes, he came back home after a while, but he was separated from them immediately. And, he CONFESSED to it. He begged for help. He was not caught red-handed. He wanted to stop, he knew he was doing wrong, he asked for help, for mercy, for forgiveness. His parents gave all of that to him, and also helped the girls heal as well. Who are you to say they didn't? Just because they didn't call the cops and have their son hauled away? Are they supposed to value girls above boys, in your world? I think they showed that they value all their kids. They got him help, they got them help, and they did everything they could to keep ALL their UNDERAGE children protected from the media and vultures waiting to destroy them. Any GOOD parent would do that. I can't imagine being in their situation, and I certainly can't imagine throwing my son in prison would be the only way to handle the situation. You people (general you, don't know your particular stance for sure) willingly forgive countless middle aged men when they abuse women (Clinton - who is also tied to an underage sex scandal now as well) or even KILL a woman (Ted Kennedy). But God forbid a 14 year old Christian boy make a horrible horrible mistake. Hang him from the rafters! Throw him in prison! Parade those girls out as victims, drag them through it all again, just to satisfy your blood lust. Destroy Josh and his little family, despite the fact that by all accounts he has repented, repaired his relationships, made his apologies, begged for forgiveness and been granted it, and moved on to a productive life. Destruction of everything you disagree with is all you know, isn't it? Speaking of brainwashed. It does not surprise me in the least that you are defending these people and their actions. You are unbelievable.
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Post by desertgirl on May 31, 2015 12:26:13 GMT
I'll say it again.
It was not a "mistake" years ago. Stop using that word.
It was a crime. A heinous crime.
You can spin this any way you want to seem to be on the side of "good" Christians. It still does not make the crime go away, seem understandable, be okay to be swept under the rug because of the passage of years and the "lovely charm" of Josh's new life as a husband and father.
The crime still exists. And the parental Duggars are accomplices.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on May 31, 2015 12:37:36 GMT
brainwashing n. noun 1. Intensive, forcible indoctrination, usually political or religious, aimed at destroying a person's basic convictions and attitudes and replacing them with an alternative set of fixed beliefs. In the post that you challenge, "brainwash" for "indoctrinate" was probably used figuratively (either metaphorically or hyperbolically). Just like the words A-okay, beg, haul, vulture, throw, countless, hang, parade, drag, vulture, blood-lust, destroy are used figuratively in your posts on this thread. (I won't quote the dictionary definitions, though. It's a rhetorical device that I discourage in my own students' writing after a certain age.) Related: Part of me wonders if you're being hyperbolic when you constantly call us "ignorant" and "idiots," but - sadly - I'm pretty sure you're being literal and you believe that's an appropriate (or remotely effective) way to talk to people.
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Post by back to *pea*ality on May 31, 2015 12:52:44 GMT
Too bad the Duggars put their precious SON over 4 or 5 daughters. Another ignorant thing to say. How are you reaching this conclusion, exactly? They DID handle the situation. Josh was 14 years old for God's sake. He did have consequences. They did not leave him in the home with the girls. yes, he came back home after a while, but he was separated from them immediately. And, he CONFESSED to it. He begged for help. He was not caught red-handed. He wanted to stop, he knew he was doing wrong, he asked for help, for mercy, for forgiveness. His parents gave all of that to him, and also helped the girls heal as well. Who are you to say they didn't? Just because they didn't call the cops and have their son hauled away? Are they supposed to value girls above boys, in your world? I think they showed that they value all their kids. They got him help, they got them help, and they did everything they could to keep ALL their UNDERAGE children protected from the media and vultures waiting to destroy them. Any GOOD parent would do that. I can't imagine being in their situation, and I certainly can't imagine throwing my son in prison would be the only way to handle the situation. You people (general you, don't know your particular stance for sure) willingly forgive countless middle aged men when they abuse women (Clinton - who is also tied to an underage sex scandal now as well) or even KILL a woman (Ted Kennedy). But God forbid a 14 year old Christian boy make a horrible horrible mistake. Hang him from the rafters! Throw him in prison! Parade those girls out as victims, drag them through it all again, just to satisfy your blood lust. Destroy Josh and his little family, despite the fact that by all accounts he has repented, repaired his relationships, made his apologies, begged for forgiveness and been granted it, and moved on to a productive life. Destruction of everything you disagree with is all you know, isn't it? I think you are really projecting here with regard to your opinions on Josh Duggar and how his parents "handled" the situation. The family has issued a few brief statements on the matter and from that you have gleaned an awful lot of information. I will give you this though, the media and the American people seem to give a pass to liberals. Ted Kennedy left the scene of the accident where MaryJo Kopeckne died. He was driving the car, was probably drunk and reported the accident 9 hours later. He served no time.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 13:20:22 GMT
Too bad the Duggars put their precious SON over 4 or 5 daughters. Another ignorant thing to say. How are you reaching this conclusion, exactly? They DID handle the situation. Josh was 14 years old for God's sake. He did have consequences. They did not leave him in the home with the girls. yes, he came back home after a while, but he was separated from them immediately. And, he CONFESSED to it. He begged for help. He was not caught red-handed. He wanted to stop, he knew he was doing wrong, he asked for help, for mercy, for forgiveness. His parents gave all of that to him, and also helped the girls heal as well. Who are you to say they didn't? Just because they didn't call the cops and have their son hauled away? Are they supposed to value girls above boys, in your world? I think they showed that they value all their kids. They got him help, they got them help, and they did everything they could to keep ALL their UNDERAGE children protected from the media and vultures waiting to destroy them. Any GOOD parent would do that. I can't imagine being in their situation, and I certainly can't imagine throwing my son in prison would be the only way to handle the situation. You people (general you, don't know your particular stance for sure) willingly forgive countless middle aged men when they abuse women (Clinton - who is also tied to an underage sex scandal now as well) or even KILL a woman (Ted Kennedy). But God forbid a 14 year old Christian boy make a horrible horrible mistake. Hang him from the rafters! Throw him in prison! Parade those girls out as victims, drag them through it all again, just to satisfy your blood lust. Destroy Josh and his little family, despite the fact that by all accounts he has repented, repaired his relationships, made his apologies, begged for forgiveness and been granted it, and moved on to a productive life. Destruction of everything you disagree with is all you know, isn't it? What a complete and utter load of bullshit. If they gave one damn about their daughter they wouldn't make them live with their ABUSER. And he should've gone to jail. He broke the law. MULTIPLE times. He is a incestuous sexual predator. The girls got no help at all. Josh got sent to build a house. That's not counseling. The whole thing is appalling and that you would actually back them up makes me want to throw up. And they did NOT save them from the media. They went ahead with show after show, interview after interview, thrusting them all in the public eye.
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Post by caro on May 31, 2015 13:32:44 GMT
Lynlam, I don't know you and you don't know me to my knowledge. I've never interacted with you. I'm not into name calling, I didn't know you were. Nice.........very Christian like.
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Post by luckyexwife on May 31, 2015 13:38:09 GMT
Too bad the Duggars put their precious SON over 4 or 5 daughters. Another ignorant thing to say. How are you reaching this conclusion, exactly? They DID handle the situation. Josh was 14 years old for God's sake. He did have consequences. They did not leave him in the home with the girls. yes, he came back home after a while, but he was separated from them immediately. And, he CONFESSED to it. He begged for help. He was not caught red-handed. He wanted to stop, he knew he was doing wrong, he asked for help, for mercy, for forgiveness. His parents gave all of that to him, and also helped the girls heal as well. Who are you to say they didn't? Just because they didn't call the cops and have their son hauled away? Are they supposed to value girls above boys, in your world? I think they showed that they value all their kids. They got him help, they got them help, and they did everything they could to keep ALL their UNDERAGE children protected from the media and vultures waiting to destroy them. Any GOOD parent would do that. I can't imagine being in their situation, and I certainly can't imagine throwing my son in prison would be the only way to handle the situation. You people (general you, don't know your particular stance for sure) willingly forgive countless middle aged men when they abuse women (Clinton - who is also tied to an underage sex scandal now as well) or even KILL a woman (Ted Kennedy). But God forbid a 14 year old Christian boy make a horrible horrible mistake. Hang him from the rafters! Throw him in prison! Parade those girls out as victims, drag them through it all again, just to satisfy your blood lust. Destroy Josh and his little family, despite the fact that by all accounts he has repented, repaired his relationships, made his apologies, begged for forgiveness and been granted it, and moved on to a productive life. Destruction of everything you disagree with is all you know, isn't it? I know it's worthless to reply to you, as you always post and run, but... This all happened BEFORE they had the show. They had done specials, but not the full show. Are you ok with all sex offenders repenting, repairing their relationships, making apologies, begging for forgiveness, and moving on to a productive life?? I'm not, and I have no idea why anyone would think that is ok.
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Post by Sarah*H on May 31, 2015 13:57:26 GMT
I'm somewhat surprised to read Lynlam taking up for criminals now, that's certainly an unexpected change of heart given her previous rants. There are so few people in the world ready to come to the defense of child molesters, I'm sure the Duggars are appreciative of the support.
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Post by mallie on May 31, 2015 14:05:50 GMT
Lynlam, what astonishes me is how you raked Obama over the coals and called him an unfit president for wearing flip flops on vacation, but an admitted sexual predator gets a free pass. Who knew wearing flip flops was worse than fondling children? Interesting worldview and priorities you have.
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Post by MsKnit on May 31, 2015 14:08:47 GMT
How anyone can defend Ma & Pa Duggar and their pervert son is beyond me. It does look like Josh got off scott free. He needed proper counseling, not the crap Gothard set out for situations like this. You did read that lovely piece of advice, didn't you, Lynlam? The one that blames the victim. The one that sets the task to the molested to determine if they 'defrauded' the perpetrator?
Now, he is living with his own 5 year old daughter. Completely twisted and messed up. There's a very real possibility that he has already molested her. No one is going to protect her because she is a girl and she has done something illicit to defraud Josh.
It's the girls, his sisters and his other victims, that have paid or are paying for this. Those parents preach purity. Didn't you hear the lovely story that JimBob shared with his family about the cup of spit? After being brainwashed on the Duggar brand of beliefs, those girls who have been violated by their brother can now see themselves as that cup of spit.
How screwed up was those girls home life that they had to live in fear of 'defrauding' their brother? How screwed up was those girls home life when they had to go to bed fully clothed to prevent their pervert brother from molesting them in their sleep?
Why did he molest them in their sleep? He knew it was wrong and he was hiding his actions.
Do I think the parents did what they thought was best for their children? Yes. But, I think they are terribly screwed up in their beliefs. And, their solution did nothing to help any of those kids. All of those kids are a victim of their parents' twisted beliefs. Josh and his victims needed real help, not the Duggar/Gothard brand of help.
Tell me, why would any Christian want this family to be a representative of their beliefs?
It is brainwashing when the person ends up having no other choice. Those kids never had a choice. They are homeschooled the Gothard way. They are churched in their home, by their father who calls himself a pastor. Their opinion is their parents opinion. All interaction involves family in some way. That is brainwashing.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 14:11:55 GMT
I think that the employees of FOX news will do ANYTHING, even interview the Duggars, to keep the focus off of Hastert, face of the Republican Party for so many years, and his millions of dollars in hush money to cover up sexual misconduct with a BOY while he was a teacher. To some degree it apparently works because we have a thread about the Duggar interview, but not a mention of Hastert and his pedophilia and cover up.... My take on it is not a big surprise. Another politician is outed for being corrupt. I did think about starting a thread about Hastert (your welcome too start one instead), but I thought what's the point? Another politician that's an asshole.
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Post by elaine on May 31, 2015 14:49:52 GMT
I think that the employees of FOX news will do ANYTHING, even interview the Duggars, to keep the focus off of Hastert, face of the Republican Party for so many years, and his millions of dollars in hush money to cover up sexual misconduct with a BOY while he was a teacher. To some degree it apparently works because we have a thread about the Duggar interview, but not a mention of Hastert and his pedophilia and cover up.... My take on it is not a big surprise. Another politician is outed for being corrupt. I did think about starting a thread about Hastert (your welcome too start one instead), but I thought what's the point? Another politician that's an asshole. Of course it isn't a surprise to us, but I bet that some people at FOX were more than a little upset. I think that Megyn Kelly would interview the most offensive anti-papist out there rather than focus on Hastert. I wasn't hand-slapping the peas for not starting a thread - I'm not starting political threads while on steroids for good reason - just making the observation. I can guarantee that if Nancy Pelosi did something even 1/10th as heinous, there would be multiple multi-page threads going on about it. And FOX news would likely have non-stop 24/7 coverage about it for a week or two with no mention of the Duggars.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 15:15:43 GMT
My take on it is not a big surprise. Another politician is outed for being corrupt. I did think about starting a thread about Hastert (your welcome too start one instead), but I thought what's the point? Another politician that's an asshole. Of course it isn't a surprise to us, but I bet that some people at FOX were more than a little upset. I think that Megyn Kelly would interview the most offensive anti-papist out there rather than focus on Hastert. I wasn't hand-slapping the peas for not starting a thread - I'm not starting political threads while on steroids for good reason - just making the observation. I can guarantee that if Nancy Pelosi did something even 1/10th as heinous, there would be multiple multi-page threads going on about it. And FOX news would likely have non-stop 24/7 coverage about it for a week or two with no mention of the Duggars. I don't know about multiple pages about Pelosi. I think the reason why there have been multiple Duggar threads is because the majority of the peas are in actual agreement. With political threads you get a couple of extremists on the right and the left. They dominate the threads. It gets derailed without any real discussion about the actual topic. I believe what you are saying about FOX news. I stay away from them and MSNBC because they are so biased.
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Post by greenlegume on May 31, 2015 15:20:35 GMT
When the only people you've got in your corner are Mike Huckabee, and a gaggle of dingbats like lynlam, there's your sign. Even Santorum, (who had the Duggar endorsement in the last presidential race) thinks Josh's actions were sickening, and his concern was rightfully, for Josh, Michelle, and JimBob's victims*. I guess that makes him an ignorant vulture waiting to destroy the poor, innocent Duggar three in lynlam's eyes. * Although the skeptical side of me thinks that he has said this merely to keep his campaign chances alive, I do respect that he decried Josh's actions without any of the excuse-making theater, and kept the focus of his statement on the victims. That's something Duggar fans simply refuse to do. Santorum interviewAlso, I'd love to see lynlam's contortions while trying to explain away the hypocrisy of JimBob Duggar's 2002 campaign statements that rape and incest are crimes that should be punishable by death. "Rape and incest represent heinous crimes and as such should be treated as capital crimes.” He said this while, or shortly before, the incestuous molestation was coming to light in his own home. Hypocrisy at its finest.
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Post by The Great Carpezio on May 31, 2015 15:31:07 GMT
Timeline of events. Lynlam, if they wanted to protect their children from the big, bad media, perhaps they shouldn't have made a tv show. ALL of the shows (including the specials) occurred AFTER they knew of the abuse. This isnt a Christian vs non-Christian issue or con/lib issue. This is a moral issue. How we live our lives when no one is watching speaks volumes.
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Post by jumperhop on May 31, 2015 15:33:07 GMT
My sweet neighbor was raped by her teen brother multiple times as a child. She is 51 years old and even after years of counseling this effects her daily. She is a cutter, she tried to kill herself multiple times last year, and has been in and out of mental hospitals. It's heartbreaking.
I believe that we can be forgiven of our sins. But it's hard to think of my sweet friend and her daily suffering after all these years. jen
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 15:36:04 GMT
My sweet neighbor was raped by her teen brother multiple times as a child. She is 51 years old and even after years of counseling this effects her daily. She is a cutter, she tried to kill herself multiple times last year, and has been in and out of mental hospitals. It's heartbreaking. I believe that we can be forgiven of our sins. But it's hard to think of my sweet friend and her daily suffering after all these years. jen My guess is, that he was never prosecuted. I could be wrong though. I believe that prosecution of the perpetrator can really help victims in their healing. Rather than 4 months of hard labor and blaming the victims as part of the "counseling".
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Post by mystuffandnat on May 31, 2015 15:41:28 GMT
I am a normal, decent person that is not salivating to watch the interview, but I am going to watch it. Why, because I want to see someone hand them their asses in a basket. Megyn Kelly will not fall for the BS they will be spewing. She will ask the hard questions and will not beat around the bush. I am honestly surprised that they will even do an interview with her.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 15:47:00 GMT
I am a normal, decent person that is not salivating to watch the interview, but I am going to watch it. Why, because I want to see someone hand them their asses in a basket. Megyn Kelly will not fall for the BS they will be spewing. She will ask the hard questions and will not beat around the bush. I am honestly surprised that they will even do an interview with her. I don't watch Fox News and I'm not familiar with Megyn Kelly. I'll probably watch to see if she hands their a$$es to them, otherwise I'll turn it off quickly.
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Post by jumperhop on May 31, 2015 16:38:47 GMT
My sweet neighbor was raped by her teen brother multiple times as a child. She is 51 years old and even after years of counseling this effects her daily. She is a cutter, she tried to kill herself multiple times last year, and has been in and out of mental hospitals. It's heartbreaking. I believe that we can be forgiven of our sins. But it's hard to think of my sweet friend and her daily suffering after all these years. jen My guess is, that he was never prosecuted. I could be wrong though. I believe that prosecution of the perpetrator can really help victims in their healing. Rather than 4 months of hard labor and blaming the victims as part of the "counseling". Never! In fact they had a good relationship until his passing a 2 years ago which triggered guilt, blaming herself (she was 5), depression and the fact that this was never resolved, and her parents didn't protect her. I can't even imagine. She is such a good person always doing kind things for other people. I wish she could see herself in my eyes, flawless. Jen
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Post by back to *pea*ality on May 31, 2015 16:53:52 GMT
My guess is, that he was never prosecuted. I could be wrong though. I believe that prosecution of the perpetrator can really help victims in their healing. Rather than 4 months of hard labor and blaming the victims as part of the "counseling". Never! In fact they had a good relationship until his passing a 2 years ago which triggered guilt, blaming herself (she was 5), depression and the fact that this was never resolved, and her parents didn't protect her. I can't even imagine. She is such a good person always doing kind things for other people. I wish she could see herself in my eyes, flawless. Jen How tragic and sad. I cannot understand how some people refuse to acknowledge that a traumatic event like sexual assault changes the trajectory of a victims life. I also take umbrage with the statement that we are "salivating" about the interview. I want to see Megyn Kelly push these two to the wall with her questions and hope that these young ladies get help. If they are reading on-line comments making excuses for their brother I cannot imagine the further damage this will cause them.
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Post by caro on May 31, 2015 17:11:02 GMT
Is it Lynlam's MO to post and run?
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Post by greenlegume on May 31, 2015 17:22:29 GMT
Another ignorant thing to say. How are you reaching this conclusion, exactly? They DID handle the situation. Josh was 14 years old for God's sake. He did have consequences. They did not leave him in the home with the girls. yes, he came back home after a while, but he was separated from them immediately. And, he CONFESSED to it. He begged for help. He was not caught red-handed. He wanted to stop, he knew he was doing wrong, he asked for help, for mercy, for forgiveness. His parents gave all of that to him, and also helped the girls heal as well. Who are you to say they didn't? Just because they didn't call the cops and have their son hauled away? Are they supposed to value girls above boys, in your world? I think they showed that they value all their kids. They got him help, they got them help, and they did everything they could to keep ALL their UNDERAGE children protected from the media and vultures waiting to destroy them. Any GOOD parent would do that. I can't imagine being in their situation, and I certainly can't imagine throwing my son in prison would be the only way to handle the situation. You people (general you, don't know your particular stance for sure) willingly forgive countless middle aged men when they abuse women (Clinton - who is also tied to an underage sex scandal now as well) or even KILL a woman (Ted Kennedy). But God forbid a 14 year old Christian boy make a horrible horrible mistake. Hang him from the rafters! Throw him in prison! Parade those girls out as victims, drag them through it all again, just to satisfy your blood lust. Destroy Josh and his little family, despite the fact that by all accounts he has repented, repaired his relationships, made his apologies, begged for forgiveness and been granted it, and moved on to a productive life. Destruction of everything you disagree with is all you know, isn't it? I do agree with you on ONE statement (just this one thing) : Parade those girls out as victims, drag them through it all again, just to satisfy your blood lust. From what I have read on facebook, around the internet, and even here, some people are enjoying this all way too much. The person that released this information did not considered, even for a second, what they were doing to the victims. Bullshit. If you want to name names, then woman up and do it. Otherwise, you're just spewing nonsense. I haven't seen one person here at 2PR post anything that resembles enjoyment on this issue. Now facebook, and the internet? I'll agree with you. There are some really tasteless memes and things being posted. This situation is nothing to joke about. But here? I haven't seen that at all. Nor have I seen anyone "enjoying" themselves.
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Post by greenlegume on May 31, 2015 17:23:12 GMT
Is it Lynlam's MO to post and run? Absolutely.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 17:30:01 GMT
Is it Lynlam's MO to post and run? Yes, she is so convinced that she is absolutely right in everything she posts that she sees no need to come back. Either that or she needs a breather to wipe the spittle off her keyboard.
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Post by caro on May 31, 2015 17:37:28 GMT
Is it Lynlam's MO to post and run? Yes, she is so convinced that she is absolutely right in everything she posts that she sees no need to come back. Either that or she needs a breather to wipe the spittle off her keyboard. [br That's too bad. So she's not into dialog? Bruwahahaha
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Post by back to *pea*ality on May 31, 2015 18:51:40 GMT
In all fairness, the Hastert indictment was made late Thursday by the FBI. The allegations of sexual abuse came on Friday. FOX News has covered it. I am sure all the news outlets want to interview him including Fox. Why do you think the people at Fox are upset? Are the people at MSNBC wringing their hands every time Hillary Clinton scrubs an email server?
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