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Post by buddysmom on Aug 3, 2015 21:07:14 GMT
My DD starts her senior year on a Monday soon.
DH and I are also driving back with my college DS from the other coast where he was interning for the summer and we won't be back until Monday evening. They go to different schools but my son said he can miss his first day of class on Monday and just catch up. DD says they will drop her from the class for missing the very first day.
Do you think that is accurate?
When I was in college eons ago, people were still doing drop/add, etc the first week. Oh, and she's been in Europe "studying" the past six months and traveling to countries I haven't even heard of!!
So I'm kinda ticked that she can't/won't help us out.
It's because we would have to put our dogs in the kennel again. We just came back from out of town and the dogs were already in the kennel for two weeks. It would only be for three nights but I would rather not do it if we don't have to.
***UPDATE*** Thanks for all the responses, only got to about page five, never had one go that long! Anyway, everything turned out fine, both kids got back to college on time and we enjoyed traveling with my son. To clarify a few things, both kids are responsible, etc. I said my DD was being bratty--well that was just me pulling my hair out figuring out things on short notice. DS had his car on the other coast so we figured it would be fun to drive cross country back here. Both kids already have their previous apartments so they just needed to drive a couple of hours back to school once we got home. I was kidding (sort of !) about DD going to countries I never heard of--and yes I was jealous--in a very good way! She's 21 and has been to about 20 countries already! Kids and dogs are fine!
Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 21:10:40 GMT
I missed my first two days of my last year of university so I could visit my dying aunt. No one noticed, or cared. I've never even heard of a university class where you must claim or seat, or that had a seating plan.
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Post by melissa on Aug 3, 2015 21:14:18 GMT
It depends on the school and likely the class.
Dd missed a class because of an error last fall. There was a waiting list for the class. Anyone who was not present was dropped in favor of someone one the waiting list.
Personally, I would have hated to miss the first day of any single class, let alone several. Far too much information conveyed on day 1 that sets the scene for the entire semester. But, I also went to a school that did not have a ton of drop/add going on.
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Post by myshelly on Aug 3, 2015 21:15:44 GMT
With all the transfers and dropped classes and waiting lists, there are people who aren't even signed up on the first day of class who end up taking the class.
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Post by quiltz on Aug 3, 2015 21:17:51 GMT
Perhaps your DD will get an unexcused absence on her record. The first day is important as this is when time-lines are given out by teachers, desks are chosen in many classes and the social part of catching up with friends.
I do not understand why your dogs would come before you DD's attendance at HS.
Edited to add: It sounds like you are a bit jealous about her trip to Europe. There are many small countries in Europe.
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Post by its me mg on Aug 3, 2015 21:18:52 GMT
Don't burn one of your only 3 absences on the first day!!!
I've had classes where if you missed day one, you got dropped and someone that "crashed" your course gets the spot.
Some teachers will wait the first few days, then do adds/drops.
Wouldn't want to find out the hard way you got the professor that drops you!
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Post by librarylady on Aug 3, 2015 21:19:35 GMT
When my son was in HS, he had to miss the first 3 days of a school year once. He was counted as a "no show" and therefore was not absent, nor was it held against him.
I do recall in college, if you missed the first class, you were dropped from the class and would have had to re-enroll in that particular class.
As someone mentioned, it depends on the procedures at the particular school/university.
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Post by katiejane on Aug 3, 2015 21:23:54 GMT
I wouldn't dream of planning a schedule that caused my kids to miss college (especially the first day) unless it was a family crisis. I would put the dogs in kennels if that was needed to make sure I was back in time.
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Post by kernriver on Aug 3, 2015 21:24:14 GMT
I'm in college now and I would say that he is accurate. If you dont claim your seat it will be given to someone that wants to add the class or someone on the waitlist.
She could try contacting the professor.
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Post by lucyg on Aug 3, 2015 21:33:34 GMT
Let me get this straight. You want your DD to miss the first day of school, over her objections, in order to convenience yourself?
I don't think anyone here can accurately answer your actual question, because it's going to depend on the school and the instructor. There's no one correct answer.
But, as a PP said, I wouldn't dream of suggesting my child miss the first day of school for anything other than an absolute family emergency.
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Post by peabay on Aug 3, 2015 21:38:47 GMT
Sounds like you are resentful somehow that she won't do something for you after "studying" (you put that in quotations) all summer in Europe.
I'm paying for those missed classes - I don't want my kids to miss their college classes. I'd put the dogs in the kennel and get her where she needs to be.
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Post by zztop11 on Aug 3, 2015 21:40:20 GMT
Not to sound mean or harsh, but your daughter comes first. Certainly her college education comes before deciding whether or not to put the dogs in a kennel. When my daughter was in college (she lived there but it was only 20 minutes away) I considered her separate from us when it came to things like that. She's in college now and that takes #1. Missing the first day is a big deal!
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Post by zztop11 on Aug 3, 2015 21:42:29 GMT
Not to sound mean or harsh, but your daughter comes first. Certainly her college education comes before deciding whether or not to put the dogs in a kennel. When my daughter was in college (she lived there but it was only 20 minutes away) I considered her separate from us when it came to things like that. She's in college now and that takes #1. Missing the first day is a big deal!
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Post by brina on Aug 3, 2015 21:46:45 GMT
Why do you and your husband have to both go to pick up your son? If you don't want to kennel the dogs one of you get your son and one stay home with the dogs. I would not ask my dd to miss her first day of classes. If there is a waiting list for the class she could well be dropped if she doesn't show up on the first day.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Aug 3, 2015 21:51:31 GMT
If there is a waiting list she can be dropped unless things have changed. Not only that but instructors will give out important info that will not be repeated and handouts may not be available at later classes. I wouldn't miss the first class unless it was very important and I knew the instructors and could contact them first. It would have to be a life threatening emergency. Not all teachers would excuse it and could drop them.
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Post by myshelly on Aug 3, 2015 21:51:50 GMT
Wow, just wow.
When I replied before I was only reading the title.
Now I've read the post and all I can say is wow.
First of all, your DD is a *senior* at this school. She knows how things work. If she knows she needs to be there on the first day, she needs to be there on the first day.
Second, your dogs? Your dogs! Are you freaking kidding me? You are mad bc your DD is not dropping her college life to babysit your dogs? Just no. So much no.
She is an adult. This is her last year of college. You are shaping what your adult relationship with her will be like. Asking her to put her life aside for your dogs is not a good start.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 3, 2015 21:55:56 GMT
I have 2 dd's in college. One recently grad'd. I would NOT want them to miss the 1st day. The 1st day the professor sets the tone for the class. Goes over the syllabus and tells the students their expectations. This is very important to know, and not something I would have her miss. What year is she? esp if she is a Sr and in to her capstone classes! Esp over kenneling dogs?? good gravy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 21:57:25 GMT
Is she a high school senior or college? In college, I would not miss the first day, so much info is given on that day.
Your son can fly home for the cost of gas. Or Call a friend to see if they want to drive with you so husband can stay home or one of his friends so you can stay home. Or Hire a neighbor kid to come let dogs out and feed them. I am sure you can get someone for less than kennel fees.
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Post by *KAS* on Aug 3, 2015 21:57:48 GMT
You want her to miss a day of college so you don't have to put your dogs in a kennel?
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Post by luckyexwife on Aug 3, 2015 21:58:44 GMT
My DD starts her senior year on a Monday soon. DH and I are also driving back with my college DS from the other coast where he was interning for the summer and we won't be back until Monday evening. They go to different schools but my son said he can miss his first day of class on Monday and just catch up. DD says they will drop her from the class for missing the very first day. Do you think that is accurate? When I was in college eons ago, people were still doing drop/add, etc the first week. Oh, and she's been in Europe "studying" the past six months and traveling to countries I haven't even heard of!! So I'm kinda ticked that she can't/won't help us out. It's because we would have to put our dogs in the kennel again. We just came back from out of town and the dogs were already in the kennel for two weeks. It would only be for three nights but I would rather not do it if we don't have to. Thanks. She is a college senior! She is not taking freshman general credit classes, she is taking major-specific classes, and you want her to miss her first day so she can babysit your dogs? Unless I am misunderstanding your op, I think that is far too much to ask of your DD! She should not be missing the first day!
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Post by Kelpea on Aug 3, 2015 22:02:54 GMT
I'm in school. Depends upon the class. And the professor. The respective syllabuses will advise you as to the rules of each class. For one class in particular, one missed day was an automatic "C" for the class. Two? You were gone from the class.
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Post by genealopea on Aug 3, 2015 22:12:43 GMT
I've got one who's a senior in college and one starting freshman year. I wouldn't consider asking either of them to miss the first day of class, unless it was a life or death situation. Put the dogs in the kennel.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 3, 2015 22:12:47 GMT
I would not ask someone to miss their first day of classes and my senior seminar class, which was required, would drop you for a no show the first day. You had to get express permission from the prof and that left a really bad impression if they gave it to you all.
Find a dog sitter or kennel the dogs or only one of you go or have ds fly home. I can't believe he is ok with missing that first class. It is not the way to start off the semester.
Oh and ticked at your adult daughter because she wants to be responsible is silly
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 22:23:30 GMT
My daughter is also a senior (college) this year. I have no intention of taking her or being with her on her first day of school. She's an adult now at 21 years old. Who needs mommy to be there on day one or cannot get themselves there by day one at this age?
And yes in this situation my dogs needs would be part of the consideration. They are not stuffed things without feelings. They are completely at the mercy of our whims and choices.
What a weird situation all around.
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Post by Jili on Aug 3, 2015 22:24:17 GMT
The first day of class is very important because it sets the tone for the semester. The syllabus is reviewed and expectations are clarified. I can't conceive of a scenario outside of an emergency or death in the family where I would ask my dd to miss the first day of class. I agree with everyone else--the dogs need to go into the kennel. Honestly, if I were in your situation and I felt that there would be too much kennel time for the dogs, I would have made other adjustments to my travels that prioritized the time needed to get the kids to their respective schools.
At my daughter's university, the students purchase SmartBoard response clickers (or something similar). It is common for teachers to use them to administer small quizzes and for purposes of checking attendance.
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Post by theshyone on Aug 3, 2015 22:26:13 GMT
I'd be concerned your son is already blowing off his first day, let alone demanding your daughter do it too! Just wrong.
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Post by ten&rose on Aug 3, 2015 22:29:12 GMT
I would lose my seat in my program if I skipped the first day of class. I get that you don't want to kennel the dogs but you are asking her to put her college education and future over the comfort of animals.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 3, 2015 22:33:13 GMT
Did you not know this before now? Why wasn't the other trip then planned to make this not an issue.
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Post by gsquaredmom on Aug 3, 2015 22:35:15 GMT
My DD starts her senior year on a Monday soon. DH and I are also driving back with my college DS from the other coast where he was interning for the summer and we won't be back until Monday evening. They go to different schools but my son said he can miss his first day of class on Monday and just catch up. DD says they will drop her from the class for missing the very first day. Do you think that is accurate? When I was in college eons ago, people were still doing drop/add, etc the first week. Oh, and she's been in Europe "studying" the past six months and traveling to countries I haven't even heard of!! So I'm kinda ticked that she can't/won't help us out. It's because we would have to put our dogs in the kennel again. We just came back from out of town and the dogs were already in the kennel for two weeks. It would only be for three nights but I would rather not do it if we don't have to. Thanks. Yes, she can be dropped in favor of someone who felt it was important to show up the first day. And good for her to study abroad. Sounds like a terrific young woman who will go very far in life! And your son's internship? Bravo! You must be so proud of both of them! Board the dogs.
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Post by Nicole in TX on Aug 3, 2015 22:36:47 GMT
I would never miss the first day.
I get incredibly annoyed at high school students who miss the first day in my class.
And yes, many professors take attendance and count it as part of the grade.
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