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Post by Merge on Oct 2, 2024 19:33:28 GMT
I am interested to hear why you are even more mad at "having" to vote for Harris/Walz. Walz lied yet again about some ish that shouldn’t even have to matter.. but it seems to be a serious pattern. And instead of own it, he got flustered and annoyed at being called on it. If it was that meaningful to him, as he tried to sell it… he should have known whether he was there or not. Just like all the lies that come out of Trump’s mouth, the lies that came out of Hillary’s mouth (“she landed under sniper fire.” Bullshit.) Lies and more lies. Still no one offered any information about the “huge issue” of child care. Really? They keep saying it’s an issue. It’s an issue for the American people.. but none of these politicians want to actually talk about it. Walz.. well, ya know… we will throw some (taxpayer) money at it. Not enough. We know that. Oh, and knowing that if you increase the demand (money available) but not the supply (root cause….) it’ll just drive it up while draining more money out of the pockets of actual taxpayers… Now back to sob story about immigrants. Same thing with housing. Yay. Tax cut/rebate whatever.. I guess I’ll just be paying $25k more for my house. I have access to the GI Bill loan Walz mentioned. Sure! Buy your house for no money down- if you can get it/ chosen by seller. Those VA loans are rife with obstacles and regulations (not a bad thing) and often closing doesn’t happen, so sellers (especially in a tight market) avoid them. Oh… plus you have lots more PMI (which hasn’t been tax deductible since tax year 2021. As short sighted and bad in the long run as student loans. Hurts a lot more when you are in a city where the “starter homes” if you can find one, start at 400-500k plus. Yeyyyyy keep interest rates super high, no plan for supply that has been down by several million for the last 15 years… throw (taxpayer) money at it! Back to sob story about immigrants Same thing with groceries. Medical. Drugs, and even Preemptive strike on Iran (no answers.) Iran is on the cusp (literally a week or max two) of being a nuclear power. Why? Trump bad policy by both the Trump and Biden administration. Trump (ended JCPOA participation because he felt it was beneficial to Iran financially. Why has it taken the Biden administration 3.5 years (and counting!) to actually address this issue? Harris isn’t Biden. Period. And it was annoying as hell that Vance kept referring to her administration as if she were president. And the phrase “border czar” sets my teeth on edge. Walz kept going back to the damn border bill that was squashed. In part (but not always) because Vance kept going back to illegals (yes- I said that.) But no one wanted to talk about exactly what that deportation looks like. I see splitting of families (due to deportation) to be the choice of the parents. Just because the kid is a US citizen doesn’t mean they are stuck here and can’t travel with their parents to where they (parents) are legally supposed to be. Literally a less chaotic and better strategy of not me-ism - let me distract…” look how bad he other guy is” than actual ideas than the last Presidential debate. Why am I “mad?” Neither candidate represents me. Neither candidate even comes close to representing me. I believe abortion is healthcare and shouldn’t be legislated-at all. Period. And right now- that’s the only reason I’m voting. And yes- it pisses me off to know that I am voting for candidates that have no problem flushing all my efforts to remove myself from generational poverty down the toilet, to pay for the poor choices of others. I am furious that the Republican Party has allowed themselves to be the party of Trump. That the Republican Party has pushed out, actively or by decision not to associate- many leaders I could get behind. Nikki Haley was a fantastic option and these damn delusional Trumpers voted for a felonious asshole instead. And here we are. I appreciate that you are willing to help us keep Trump out of office, and I hope you're pleasantly surprised by the reality of a Harris/Walz administration. |
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Post by Merge on Oct 2, 2024 19:12:22 GMT
I assume this is about Dave Ramsey. I agree that he certainly leans a different way than VP Harris and there are quite a few of his principals about getting out of debt that I don't agree with him. However, one thing he does talk about consistently is the mess that is federal student loans. You can argue both ways about student loan forgiveness but as he says that isn't getting down to the core problem. It is a band-aid fix and Congress needs to fix the problem. In that regard a sit down with both candidates and talking about how they plan on fixing this mess would have been informative. The student loan problem is a bi-partisan issue that is not being fixed. Right, but what are the chances Ramsey is going to stick to discussing that? I think we all know which candidates are in favor of making college more affordable and which ones think education is a waste of money. |
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Post by Merge on Oct 2, 2024 18:48:08 GMT
From my scanning of home decor posts on Pinterest, it looks like painted accent walls are making a comeback. I love an accent wall because I'm usually too chicken to paint a whole room in some dark, moody color. I particularly like this look. pin.it/1kufVPp4eWhat do the peas think? Has anyone added an accent wall that they love recently/ |
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Post by Merge on Oct 2, 2024 18:35:31 GMT
The same people who think this is fine lose their minds if their kid comes home with a rainbow sticker on his paper. They're sick.
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Post by Merge on Oct 2, 2024 18:29:03 GMT
It's totally OK to read more contemporary books. There's nothing inherently better about a well-written novel from 1830 than there is about a well-written novel from 2015, and students are often better able to connect with the more recent novels. Long form reading, however, IS important. Students need to understand how character development, structure, and theme work through the course of a longer work, in addition to other things I don't know about, I'm sure, because I'm not an English teacher. Our schools have long devalued the study of art in this way, though - completely missing that the ability to analyze a longer work and communicate about it translates to many important life and job skills. My daughter, for example, works as an HR data analyst at a large company. She consistently is tasked with reading long documents and comparing them with spreadsheet data, and then communicating clearly about trends and themes over time to a high-level audience. Her strong background in analyzing literature and historical documents and writing about them have contributed to making her a great fit for this job. I'll also say that even though we as a society tend to devalue the arts as a profession, the fact is that almost no one goes a single day without enjoying the work of an artist, whether through music, TV, film, visual art, or literature. It is prevalent everywhere we go. If we want to continue to be able to enjoy art, that starts with exposing young people not only to the art itself but how it is created, and analysis of what constitutes high-quality art. For literature, that has to include novel studies. Going back to your question about whether kids need to read older novels, I would say that it's important for them to have exposure to some of the works that have left their mark on our society and on future works of art. They should have some background in Shakespeare, and not just in a short passage, but in the history of that time and how his work has influenced the way we talk, think, and enjoy art in the modern day. Probably also Charles Dickens for those reasons. They should also have been exposed to Mozart and Beethoven, and DaVinci and Renoir as well - though that's often left to elementary music and art teachers (if they have them) and never touched on again. I will repeat what I said above - we need to be looking at what the best private schools do for their students and make that the goal. The advent of high-stakes standardized testing "accountability" has had the opposite effect of what was intended. It's caused public schools to dumb down the curriculum to nothing more than test prep, rather than allowing trained professional teachers to curate standards-based curricula that actually inspires learning. IMO when the government decided to go after the schools for "low performance," they went barking up the wrong tree. The problem was never the schools. The problem was and is poverty. Low academic performance is correlated more strongly with the family's SES status than any other single marker. Not because poor kids can't learn, but because Maslow's hierarchy is still applicable today. Kids who lack adequate food, shelter, and personal safety aren't in a place where they can think about their learning the way they need to. Anyway. Sorry you got this morning's novel on this topic. I think my kids get a good education in their public schools, largely because they have really smart, motivated teachers who care about learning. One of the ongoing frustrations I've had, as a person who does care about equity, is that district central staff here often say that they are eliminated advanced options, alternative programming, enrichment, etc. in the name of equity when all they are doing is making it so that kids like mine who have resourced, savvy parents get what they need and kids who don't, don't. Bill Gates is responsible for a lot of suggestions for education reform that lean in the direction of big classes, lots of tech, complete standardization, and lots of high-stakes testing. You know where he sent his kids to school? The private school here that has tiny classes, a very traditional classical private-school curriculum, and pretty much no tech at all. It's . . . interesting, isn't it? You and I are 100% on the same page with this. |
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Post by Merge on Oct 2, 2024 13:18:55 GMT
Thank you for posting the article. I saw it as a teaser on FB and I wasn’t able to read it. I have been asking my niece (now a Junior) for years what she is reading in her literature class for books and she told me only passages and short stories. I have been mind boggled. She attends public school in DFW that is thought to be good. At least it’s an affluent neighborhood. My nieces don’t read any books over the summer either. In my family, we read to our kids nightly for years and it’s expected 20-30 min a night of reading. Year around. My daughter (8th grade) has been homeschooled since 4th. Since 6th grade, she has taken some classes at a co-op for homeschoolers. Entire books are assigned. Last year in 7th grade, she read 10 full novels for that classes. Several of them were not long. I also have paid for her to have a private tutor from Outschool for 3 years who is a former librarian. They have book discussions year around. This is because I’m not always reading the book she is at the time. I sometimes worry that my daughter isn’t reading the classic, older literature yet. She prefers the books written in the last 20 years. Currently she has been assigned/reading “Wolf Hollow.” She actually read that with tutor 2 years ago already. Except several years ago, she read several “Anne of Green Gables” books and “Little House on the Prairie”. But those books that I read in high school, she hasn’t gotten to those yet. I can’t say I enjoyed many of those high school assigned books (“Les Miserables,” “Watership Down,” “Tale of Two Cities,” and more). Math was my preference over literature. I would love to understand how important it is to muddle through some of those older books we read in high school. Or - is it ok to read the more contemporary books of today? It's totally OK to read more contemporary books. There's nothing inherently better about a well-written novel from 1830 than there is about a well-written novel from 2015, and students are often better able to connect with the more recent novels. Long form reading, however, IS important. Students need to understand how character development, structure, and theme work through the course of a longer work, in addition to other things I don't know about, I'm sure, because I'm not an English teacher. Our schools have long devalued the study of art in this way, though - completely missing that the ability to analyze a longer work and communicate about it translates to many important life and job skills. My daughter, for example, works as an HR data analyst at a large company. She consistently is tasked with reading long documents and comparing them with spreadsheet data, and then communicating clearly about trends and themes over time to a high-level audience. Her strong background in analyzing literature and historical documents and writing about them have contributed to making her a great fit for this job. I'll also say that even though we as a society tend to devalue the arts as a profession, the fact is that almost no one goes a single day without enjoying the work of an artist, whether through music, TV, film, visual art, or literature. It is prevalent everywhere we go. If we want to continue to be able to enjoy art, that starts with exposing young people not only to the art itself but how it is created, and analysis of what constitutes high-quality art. For literature, that has to include novel studies. Going back to your question about whether kids need to read older novels, I would say that it's important for them to have exposure to some of the works that have left their mark on our society and on future works of art. They should have some background in Shakespeare, and not just in a short passage, but in the history of that time and how his work has influenced the way we talk, think, and enjoy art in the modern day. Probably also Charles Dickens for those reasons. They should also have been exposed to Mozart and Beethoven, and DaVinci and Renoir as well - though that's often left to elementary music and art teachers (if they have them) and never touched on again. I will repeat what I said above - we need to be looking at what the best private schools do for their students and make that the goal. The advent of high-stakes standardized testing "accountability" has had the opposite effect of what was intended. It's caused public schools to dumb down the curriculum to nothing more than test prep, rather than allowing trained professional teachers to curate standards-based curricula that actually inspires learning. IMO when the government decided to go after the schools for "low performance," they went barking up the wrong tree. The problem was never the schools. The problem was and is poverty. Low academic performance is correlated more strongly with the family's SES status than any other single marker. Not because poor kids can't learn, but because Maslow's hierarchy is still applicable today. Kids who lack adequate food, shelter, and personal safety aren't in a place where they can think about their learning the way they need to. Anyway. Sorry you got this morning's novel on this topic. |
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Post by Merge on Oct 2, 2024 1:55:37 GMT
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Post by Merge on Oct 2, 2024 1:06:31 GMT
Because he's waiting for CBS to apologize for reporting the news accurately, which he didn't like. |
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Post by Merge on Oct 1, 2024 19:57:00 GMT
Can someone tell me why Biden hasn't used his power to stop the strike? I know he says he believes in collective bargaining, but he's used his powers in the past to stop the railroad strike two years ago. So what's the difference now? I wonder if it was because we were still dealing with Pandemic shut down issues and things were still low stock and moving slow on top of it being the holidays. I do wonder if he will step in in a few days if a deal isn't reached. Union leader said in that article I linked that, if Biden forces them back to work, they plan to work so slowly that it might as well be a strike. So there's that. |
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Post by Merge on Oct 1, 2024 18:08:22 GMT
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Post by Merge on Oct 1, 2024 17:18:29 GMT
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Post by Merge on Oct 1, 2024 17:09:43 GMT
I think I'm 7 episodes in now. I love it. I don't think men like Hot Rabbi actually exist (not to say that good men don't exist, but younger men with that level of openness, self-awareness, security, and empathy) but it's a fun fantasy. Ha.
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Post by Merge on Oct 1, 2024 16:55:39 GMT
Will also affect oil import/export and a lot of other things because Houston is affected. For those who don't know, Houston is the US's busiest port in terms of tonnage moved each year. It's in the top 5 for container imports, which would be most consumer goods.
I support the strikers. One of their demands is ceasing the use of automated labor to replace them, which seems quite reasonable to me. At the moment, I'm saving my ire for hoarders who go in and buy way more of something than they can reasonably use. People only think about themselves in these situations and it's gross.
I agree that the impetus for having the strike *now* is likely political, though I'm unsure of the machinations behind it. It's my hope that the Biden admin will find a way to bring both parties to an agreement and end it quickly, which would both douse the hopes of anyone who wanted this to be an October surprise AND be a positive campaigning point for Harris.
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Post by Merge on Oct 1, 2024 16:02:27 GMT
How can you govern when you clearly hate government?
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Post by Merge on Oct 1, 2024 16:00:36 GMT
The problem with a standardized literature curriculum is that the novels a teacher in Detroit may choose probably are very different from the ones that a teacher in rural Michigan might choose, and the novel any teacher may choose one year may be different from the next. The goal is to know your students and curate a reading list that will engage and motivate them. I can see this, however, I imagine many college courses are done without personal knowledge of the students and have to be developed for a wide variety of personal experiences. So, maybe it wouldn't be perfect. But my vote is that it would be better than what we are currently doing. I am not a teacher, though. So I defer to those who are. Agree that any novel (within reason) is likely better than no novel. Historically, though, college courses are attended by those who have chosen to be there AND have already developed the ability to read longer texts, so they don't need as much of a hook. Professors can focus more on great classics in survey/gen ed courses and then offer speciality literature to upperclassmen who have an interest. To me, the question in public school should not be "is this at least good enough or better than nothing," but "is this in line with what the best private schools are doing for their students." Public education should strive to be the best if we want to move our country forward. |
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Post by Merge on Oct 1, 2024 14:12:28 GMT
The standardized tests we now use for "accountability" test reading through short passages; thus, many schools teach reading only or mostly through short passages. I've thought this was a mistake for a very long while now. In Michigan, we teach state history in 4th grade with kind of a standardized curriculum. I have often wondered that if it is possible to teach all 4th graders in our state a standardized curriculum on one subject, how we can't even do that with a literature curriculum (it could rotate year to year) to test the concepts associated with reading an entire novel. I thought this was something that I really benefitted from in high school and college getting lost in the classics with quality instruction through them. It is something about my college education that I really value. I want all kids, even those not college bound to have some background with quality literature and quality teaching on that literature. Couple that with rabid book-banning that has schools afraid to teach books that engage and challenge today's young people, and this is what we get. I totally did not connect these two issues. Thank you so much for adding nuance to this discussion. The problem with a standardized literature curriculum is that the novels a teacher in Detroit may choose probably are very different from the ones that a teacher in rural Michigan might choose, and the novel any teacher may choose one year may be different from the next. The goal is to know your students and curate a reading list that will engage and motivate them. A friend of mine is a popular published YA author and has taught English for years in our city's best high school. She left the district this year for another where she could continue to teach the way she considers best to teach. She did an interview where she explained that good, career teachers are like pastry chefs. They choose and modify their teaching each year to best reach the students in front of them. Schools have two problems now: legislatures don't want to develop, pay, and support good teachers, and brand new teachers or fly-by-night TFA folks simply don't have the experience to be the pastry chef. So they fall back on standardized curriculums that don't really work for anyone. As for connecting book banning with the destruction of public schools through standardized testing - it's absolutely true. Our schools and our kids are currently suffering death by a thousand cuts. Defunding, test-and-punish "accountability," taking away books that excite kids, imposing religion in public schools ... all these things are designed to destroy public schools. The hoped-for end result is to re-create a permanent underclass that has to do crappy jobs for low wages to survive - thus giving business owners an endless supply of cheap labor. I apologize if my "nuance" here causes somebody with too much time on their hands to label your thread "politics." This shouldn't be in any way political IMO. Public schools were considered essential by people of all political stripes up until this century and ARE essential to our continued growth and prosperity as a nation. |
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Post by Merge on Oct 1, 2024 13:56:10 GMT
I think Democrats are too confident right now. I think this race will probably end up being decided by a handful of votes again in the swing states. This hurricane that blew threw Georgia and North Carolina - will the infrastructure be restored enough in 5 weeks for those people to even think about voting? Will the local and federal responses sway how they vote if they are even able to vote? That is millions of votes in 2 of the swing states that could decide the election. And we still have a month left to go with who knows what is going to happen. There is another potential monster storm lurking in the gulf right now. Structurally, we aren't set up for a blow out anymore. Maybe in the popular vote, that margin seems to get bigger every election. But as long as the electoral college is in place, I think we're doomed to reliving a nailbiter where the outcome isn't known for several days after the election. ETA: And I'm probably a bad liberal for saying this but I don't love how WE are politicizing this storm. Just like I didn't love how we politicized what happened at Arlington. These people are desperate. We can see how apocalyptic the destruction was and I know we all feel compassionate and heartbroken and a million other things. I hate seeing photos of Chimney Rock or Montreat (etc.) as part of a meme to hammer home how terrible Project 2025 is or remind people about how Trump feels about FEMA response to disasters in states with governors he doesn't like. We can say all of those things without tying it to this specific tragedy which is still unfolding. I kind of feel like it's hypocritical when we criticize Republicans for politicizing sacred spaces (Arlington) or their disaster responses but then we turn around and do the same darn thing to try to score points for our side by saying how we would NEVER do something that awful. I hear you, but having lived through a hurricane that brought catastrophic flooding (and having been denied federal resources from the Trump admin because we're a blue-voting city), I think people need to be aware of what one side is planning. As hopemax said, disaster response requires a huge amount of detailed pre-planning to have agencies ready to go when this stuff happens. That won't happen if the agencies are dismantled and disaster planning thrown out the window, with disaster funding allocated based on the political leanings of those affected. So many people seem unconcerned about this issue because it hasn't directly affected them yet. Kind of like how those unaffected by mass shootings don't want to "politicize" them. At some point everyone will have to reckon with the fact that only one party is interested in preventing or preparing for tragedies. The right is politicizing the heck out of this event with lies - lies about the Nat'l Guard not being deployed or help not being sent, ridiculous lies about the Biden admin engineering the hurricane, and more. That false narrative needs to be countered IMO. |
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Post by Merge on Oct 1, 2024 13:42:08 GMT
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Post by Merge on Oct 1, 2024 13:37:09 GMT
This is unsurprising. The standardized tests we now use for "accountability" test reading through short passages; thus, many schools teach reading only or mostly through short passages.
Couple that with rabid book-banning that has schools afraid to teach books that engage and challenge today's young people, and this is what we get.
As some of you know, my large urban district was taken over by the state of Texas because of low test scores at one school out of 273. The state-imposed superintendent has now forced a curriculum on *all* schools that teaches reading only through - you guessed it - short passages. Libraries have been dismantled and librarians have been fired. Novel studies are no longer allowed at the middle or high school levels with the exception of AP classes. (One wonders how AP teachers will manage their curriculum in a few years when none of their students have ever read a novel for class before, until one realizes that part of the goal is to do away with AP classes and drive motivated families and students out of public schools.)
So yeah, this is all part of the plan. Books are evil, knowledge is evil, challenging ideas are evil, college is evil. That's where all this is going. Unless we do something now. The first step needs to be to eliminate high-stakes standardized tests.
This is not and should not be political, so I hope no one will mark it as such. This is a real and severe problem in American education today that needs to be addressed by everyone who cares about public schools.
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Post by Merge on Oct 1, 2024 0:19:26 GMT
“Haake: Trump had been saying on Truth Social that he believes that Democrats have been intentionally denying aid to Republican parts of the state. I asked him what evidence he had to back that up, you can see what he said here” The proof is that that is what he, himself would do in that situation. He's said so, although I don't have time to find the quote right now. Malignant Narcissists can't imagine other people being any better (kinder, etc.) than they are. What he and his minions HAVE done during that situation, as when Greg Abbott withheld federal Harvey relief funds given to Texas by the Trump admin from blue Harris County - the hardest hit county in the state. We’ve said it often enough that it’s become meaningless, but truly, every single accusation from him is a confession. |
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Post by Merge on Sept 30, 2024 19:07:09 GMT
Because my daughters deserve to live in a free society that values them as human beings.
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Post by Merge on Sept 30, 2024 19:04:24 GMT
We rarely eat ultra-processed food at home, definitely not for meals and only as a treat for snacks. Processed in terms of ready made pasta or bread? Yes, but not in large amounts. I buy or bake sweets only once in a while.
Doctors and health advocates tend to assume that heavy people spend their lives scarfing down McDonald's and Little Debbie snack cakes. In my experience, that is not at all the case. I first started learning about eating whole, unprocessed foods (rather than the highly processed "non-fat" versions that were still in fashion at the time) when I was dx with PCOS back in 1998 - we were way ahead of the curve on that.
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Post by Merge on Sept 30, 2024 16:58:26 GMT
The nice thing about a podcast, of course, is that a friendly host will edit out extended moments of word salad like Trump increasingly produces. x.com/BostonBrian23/status/1840465386573111750Much better for Trump than live interviews like the one with the NABJ his handlers had to end early. |
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Post by Merge on Sept 30, 2024 16:53:25 GMT
I know who I want to win. I hope that she does win. However, in the back of my mind, I think even if she does, it is not going to be an easy nor pretty win. I don't think we will know by the time we go to bed that night. I also think there will be so much rumbling in the winds if she does, that it will cast doubt. I've been on TT this weekend and seeing the devastation in NC. The idiots who keep saying the gov't is doing nothing or is FINALLY doing something. When TN wasn't really in the mix of storm tracking at the beginning. No matter what these voices will continue after the election. Those people would still be voting for Trump even if Kamala herself had pulled up in a yacht filled with therapy dogs, life vests, and a catered buffet and rescued the entire state by herself. So, whatever. I like the folks claiming there is no National Guard presence in the rescue effort because they've all been sent to fight foreign wars, and the next post is literally photos of National Guard soldiers doing rescues in North Carolina. We're still living in alternate realities, it seems. |
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Post by Merge on Sept 30, 2024 16:35:39 GMT
I can’t make a prediction. It should be “by big.” But the people who will end up making the difference will be the non-motivated voters. Whether they show up or not. And any hiccup, distraction or whim could make the difference between casting a vote or not. A person could get sick, chose to work an extra shift, invited to lunch by a friend, traffic was bad and I have kids to get home to and oops, guess I didn’t have time to vote. Or oh, was voting today? Or, as right-wing social media is saying: the Democrats may create a hurricane to depress turnout in dark red areas.  |
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Post by Merge on Sept 30, 2024 16:30:41 GMT
I cannot answer this question because I don't have enough information. To not list the name of the podcaster is disingenuous. I can only assume this is intentional. Not all podcasters are on an even playing field--some are racists and bigots, misogynists, liars and conspiracy theorists. Why would Kamala Harris waste her time on a podcaster who is unserious, uses hate speech or spreads lies and conspiracy theories. Give us the name and then we'll talk. "All podcasters are equally valid and deserve to be taken seriously by politicians" is right up there with "all political opinions are valid and deserve a fair hearing." They're not and they don't. |
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Post by Merge on Sept 30, 2024 16:19:34 GMT
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Post by Merge on Sept 30, 2024 16:17:43 GMT
Mind you, I was absolutely certain that Hillary Clinton would win, so......  I won’t hazard a guess. Following a hope for the best, prepare for the worst situation. Thought the same as Aussie Meg. He is terrible; yet, people like him. The grift is obvious: coins, shoes, flags, digital trading cards 🙄, etc… A lot of that is money laundering for illegal overseas donations. Putin and the Saudis like him a lot. |
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Post by Merge on Sept 30, 2024 16:10:48 GMT
"I know you're all narrow minded...I'm not going to discuss' but you want others to take the time to answer your 'question' Yeah. I'm out on that. The fact that the OP doesn't see the irony of posting this, and then completely failing to see why one campaign might choose not to interact with a certain podcaster, is pretty funny. But I'm sure that getting pushback for clueless commentary is why she avoids political posts in the first place. ETA: If it is that Lex Fridman person, he is apparently also an Elon surrogate. That would be enough for any reasonable candidate to avoid him. Personally, I hope I'm never "open minded" to fascism. |
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Post by Merge on Sept 30, 2024 14:38:25 GMT
Before my hysterectomy in 2020, I found that I needed name brand pads to semi-control the crime scene flow. Store brand didn't do it, and forget about tampons of any kind. They were useless.
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