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I love how he was all like maybe someone can learn from this.....ummm there were many many forefathers before you that showed you how this lesson would play out.

That stood out to me too. I think transracial refers to the adoptive parents and the child’s race not being the same. I assumed the poster meant bi-racial.

Super helpful. Thanks for sharing this perspective.

Someone who has worked in Child Protective Services for almost as long as I’ve been alive knows the agency isn’t without MAJOR problems. I asked needmysanity to point out the inaccuracies in my statement so why don’t you tell us what IS “factually correct”? Otherwise it seems you’ve not taken issue with what I’ve said, just that I actually said it.




“Every year, America spends more than $30 billion on our child welfare system. These dollars are predominantly focused on investigating reports of child maltreatment and on maintaining out-of-home placements. But child welfare is as burdened with inequities as our other public and private systems.

More than half – 53% – of all Black children and their parents will experience a child abuse or neglect investigation before their 18th birthday, according to research published in the American Journal of Public Health. Black and American Indian/Alaskan Native children are disproportionately represented at all stages of the child welfare system. Once in foster care, children of color experience higher rates of placement disruptions, longer times to permanency, and more frequent re-entry than their white counterparts.

The most common allegation among their cases is neglect, which is inextricably linked to poverty. While poverty does not cause neglect, it restricts access to housing, health care, food and child care, which challenges a family’s ability to care for children. And families of color are overrepresented among poor families due to systemic conditions that have persisted for generations.

Such conditions could be one factor in the high incidence of unsubstantiated reports to child welfare systems. Recently, alarms have been raised about decreased reports of child abuse and neglect while schools have been closed. Less well known is that reports submitted by educators are most often unsubstantiated – 85 to 89% unsubstantiated, according to federal Children’s Bureau reports.

This highlights a key choice for resourcing “child protective” services going forward. Much as we are rightly discussing reallocation of resources for police departments, we should look at redirecting resources to meet the needs of families through prevention, rather than intrusive and punitive intervention.”



And oftentimes these Black children are in turn placed in families who only care for Black children for the financial benefits it brings their household. So you took kids from their parents because of money only to pay other people to neglect them. I don’t want to talk about how inaccurate my sweeping generalizations are until someone wants to talk about Devonte Hart and how all his siblings ended up at the bottom of the ocean.


So if you only want to talk about my sweeping generalizations and not systemic racism in the foster care system then find someone else to engage with because I’m not the one. I won’t be playing along. Why of all the posters should my personal experience be the ONLY one called into question and misconstrued.

I’m okay having an unpopular opinion but I don’t think that’s what happened here. However predictable it sucks to have to defend your personal account of something all while having the majority of what you’ve said be ignored.


MerryMom
needmysanity


Examining Racial Disproportionality in Child Protective Services Case Decisions (research)

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3439815/


NY

www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-combating-systemic-racism-in-the-child-welfare-system-20210118-c2vva6vl3vdbtfhaot5iuxgpme-story.html?outputType=amp

www.ncsl.org/research/human-services/disproportionality-and-race-equity-in-child-welfare.aspx

Article breaking down federal and state response to this PROBLEM.

Opinion article (watch out for sweeping generalizations from Richard Wexler executive director of the National Coalition for Child Protection Reform.)

youthtoday.org/2020/10/in-child-welfare-the-racial-bias-is-everywhere-even-in-the-research/


Abby Johnson

www.brookings.edu/blog/how-we-rise/2020/08/26/abby-johnsons-comments-about-her-adopted-black-son-are-problematic-heres-why/amp/

😳it’s like this thread summoned a blast from my past. Dated an Asian dude with tons of identity issues** and guess who just reached out 😒 Facebook groups aren’t safe guys. This one is about investing so yeah not a place you’d expect to encounter an ex.



** I was too young to tell the difference between admiration and fetishization and this guy was my lesson. He was woke way before it was a thing and I honestly found it annoying. K-pop faze was rough for me. Hell maybe I was the one with identity issues 😝 When I met his mom I commented on how he inhaled leftover food off my plate and she goes “they starved him in the orphanage because he couldn’t use chopsticks” very matter of fact and he didn’t even respond. I think she then said something like “webbed fingers but perfect for us”. To be fair he seems to have a good relationship with his parents and the only trauma he shared was teachers assuming he had Down Syndrome and kids laughing.

I think it’s important we don’t make comparisons about how “better off” they are.


Adoptees have said it’s painful and creates in them this desire to please everyone. I’ve heard some pretty cringy adoption stories* told in the presence of the child and I can’t imagine how they must have felt

Your parents didn’t make you feel beholden to them for the upbringing you were provided and adoptive children shouldn’t be made to feel that way either.


I also have personal connections to adoption and fostering.


*The mother who told the cringe worthy adoption story has admitted she does this so the child won’t consider looking for their birth family when they are older. It’s like her campfire story. No matter the occasion she tells it. Graphically.

I certainly think it’s possible for white parents to love and raise healthy Black childrenbut when we look at societal issues with race we’ve also got to be honest with ourselves that it must spill over into adoptions. Hell its hard for Black parents to shield and properly raise Black kids so why are we pretending how challenging it must be for white families.


The history of adoption and the breaking up of Black families shouldn’t be ignored either. The links in the Devonte Hart thread are informative reads. Just understanding the history of the foster care system would stop people from arguing with my anecdotal share.

“I don't know where the "try for another row with me" part enters in with this. This is a discussion board with many different topics, and disagreement and different life experiences are often part of those topics. I don't understand why a thread on transracial adoption should be any different.“

If this were true that would mean no one would force me to defend or take personally every statement I make.

peano I love to see how peas use the like feature to show support of another pea.

Like do you really agree with what she said or are you just happy to see someone try for another row with me?

It’s an extreme statement but may I also remind you it’s my lived experience, and an opinion I don’t ask anyone else to get behind.

In my statement I didn’t add any titles or make any claims to know every single Black adoptee so why you feel the need to question how many Black adoptees I know or guess what I do for a living is kinda 🧐 I also didn’t say they had extensive issues I said that they required extensive therapy. When I take something personal I have a hard time not reading more into the text I’m responding to as well but I won’t be explaining exactly how I know someone went through extensive therapy just like I’m not going to ask you how you are certain of your sons feelings about adoption.


If you can share how you feel about an issue and whatever personal experience you have I’m sure you are okay with me doing the same. And as I read what you’ve wrote please note I didn’t quote a portion of it and tell you what you’ve shared must be inaccurate.