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Post by pixiechick on Dec 15, 2021 6:18:12 GMT
Well, of course there’s a gap! Proposed rules by gov’t agencies have to be published in the Federal Register so that the public or any other agency with interest can review the rule and comment. Proposed rules also undergo congressional review. That has been the law and procedure for as long as I can remember. Comment period is usually 60 days. OSHA published on Nov 5. That's a switch from "I suppose you do have a valid point." It would seem from your posts that in your regard, if Biden had mandated immediately and for all employers that would have validated the scientific basis and importance of the mandate. Since he did not do so immediately and globally for all employers therefore proves, in your assessment, that it’s some sort of ploy unmoored from facts. That along with all of the other things that don't follow science that I mentioned. All I can say to that is if he gets anywhere close to 30,000+ lies in four years like his predecessor, then I’ll be the first to concede it’s a serious matter. That remains an extremely lazy ass, meaningless excuse for Biden doing anything. What gets lost in this back-and forth is the undeniable seriousness of a viral disease that is so lethal it has resulted in the deaths of 800,000 in the US, and 5.3 million worldwide. And while that's happening, too many people in this country continue to resist vaccines that will alleviate the serious problem. That’s what matters to me, not the trivialities you’re obsessing over. Biden's contradicting policies, contradicting messages about the vaccines, artificially changing percentages to "change the science", not following the science, divisiveness, seemingly using mandates as political cover, etc. are all contributing to vaccine resistance.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 15, 2021 5:46:15 GMT
And Nate Silver is full of crap. Just in general. I use to follow him & FiveThrityEight and posted a lot of their stuff on this board. But I have come to see Silver as someone who is full of himself and dumped him. Anyway, you don’t need a fancy “algorithm” to see and understand the type of press both President Biden & VP Harris are getting from mainstream media. President Obama also suffered from negative press over nothing as well. There is nothing wrong with honest criticism. But right now the majority of “criticism” both President Biden & VP Harris are receiving from mainstream media is anything but honest. Especially the headlines or talking points. Headlines & talking points that often leave out key points that tell the whole story. Unfortunately we have a “headline/talking point” only populous who just read & believe the headlines or talking points instead of reading/listening to the whole story. And Nate Silver is full of crap. Just in general. I use to follow him & FiveThrityEight and posted a lot of their stuff on this board. But I have come to see Silver as someone who is full of himself and dumped him. Amazing how that happens here whenever a previously Pea valued source goes against "your" narrative. Things start to twist and unravel Things like sites publicly rated as "least biased, center & factual" are suddenly called "right leaning" when they go against Pea narrative. The Hill... Right leaning. There is nothing wrong with honest criticism. But right now the majority of “criticism” both President Biden & VP Harris are receiving from mainstream media is anything but honest. Oh, it's honest, you just don't like it. When the actual Left leaning news is calling them out, when the people in their own party are calling them out, when his military experts are testifying and telling the world he didn't listen to them, when other world leaders are calling them out, when her staff in multiple arenas are calling her out and quitting, when the poll numbers are so low and historically low and low coming from both sides, it's nothing but denial to say it's someone else's fault.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 15, 2021 4:39:32 GMT
Biden set the mandates. That's a fact, not an opinion. If Biden agreed with you that it's on the individual to get vaccinated and so is the consequence of not, he would have stuck to his word and not set mandates. That's a fact, not an opinion. The reality is: caveats put into the mandates by Biden contradict the so called importance of the mandates. That's a fact, not an opinion. The opinion part is not that Biden set the mandates-he did. You think that they were wrong; that is an opinion. This has now veered sharply into hair-splitting absurdity. I’ll make it simple; your opinion is that vaccine mandates are bad, and my opinion is that they were necessary. It's not splitting hairs. It's you ignoring the facts stated by focusing on and dismissing an opinion. I also said "That doesn't do anything to prevent or even explain away the deaths in companies of less than 100." Not an opinion. and "The reality is: caveats put in the mandates by Biden contradict the so called importance of the mandates." Also not an opinion. Another fact. After saying he wouldn't mandate vaccines, Biden put mandates in place when the fallout hit from his colossal failure in Afghanistan that left so many people behind. Right when he was getting condemnation from all sides that wouldn't let up. When the fallout from refusing to listen to his military experts cost people their lives. Again, right when he was getting condemnation from all sides that wouldn't let up. Interesting timing for something that he "wasn't going to do".
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 15, 2021 4:36:00 GMT
That was in response to you saying "That was 70% of adults with at least one shot in August. I’m talking about fully-vaxxed. And children in approved age groups are part of the population and vaccine count." I don't know what the purpose is, but it's clearly not "following the science". It did occur to me that if that was the case he would have mandated it before when we had even less vaccinated. But even then he said he would not do that. Oh, I don't know... keep his word? follow the science....? I'm not raging, I'm just commenting on it. Providing current data has nothing to do with my goals. So “not yours” is a mistaken interpretation by you. And if Biden is not following the science, then what is he following? Yes, he did say he wouldn’t impose a mandate, but he also said he instead wanted to “encourage people to do the right thing.” Since encouraging and incentivizing have proven ineffective for 80 million or so people, then he imposed a mandate. I’d rather have a president who can adapt to changing circumstances and alter his prior decision so he can serve public interest and save lives. That's infinitely better than have one who is absolutely wedded to a notion even when a situation demands a different action. So we're back to "if public health emergency is really the basis of a mandate, then why the 3-month gap and why is it not being implemented with consistency across the board?" among the other shady things previously listed. Including the NEED for a mandate that has been artificially created. And if Biden is not following the science, then what is he following? I don't know, but the timing on his about face does seem oddly political.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 12, 2021 6:21:12 GMT
I’m not talking about my goal or anyone’s goal, so I don’t know what you’re even referring to. That was in response to you saying "That was 70% of adults with at least one shot in August. I’m talking about fully-vaxxed. And children in approved age groups are part of the population and vaccine count." And Biden artificially created the need for a mandate? For what purpose? I don't know what the purpose is, but it's clearly not "following the science". It never occurred to you that perhaps the 80 million or so who haven’t been vaxxed at all may have contributed to the decision? It did occur to me that if that was the case he would have mandated it before when we had even less vaccinated. But even then he said he would not do that. What would you have him do? Ignore this? Do you have better alternatives instead of just raging against him? Oh, I don't know... keep his word? follow the science....? I'm not raging, I'm just commenting on it.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 12, 2021 5:20:00 GMT
We are well passed that 61%. We passed 70% a while ago. The only difference is the added categories of children that changed the percentage - it didn't change the "science". If 70% was a good percentage to not need a mandate BEFORE the added categories changed the percentage, we're still at THAT same 70% or beyond. The NEED for a mandate has been artificially created. That was 70% of adults with at least one shot in August. I’m talking about fully-vaxxed. And children in approved age groups are part of the population and vaccine count. So it’s 60.9% fully-vaxxed as of Dec 10 which includes the children approved and have gotten it. I just looked at it. BIDEN'S goal, not yours, was "at least ONE SHOT into 70% of American adults". We did that without a mandate. Biden said he would not impose a mandate. Now we "need" a mandate ONLY because of the added categories of children that changed the percentage - it didn't change the "science". If 70% was a good percentage to not need a mandate BEFORE the added categories changed the percentage, SCIENTIFICALLY we're still at that same 70% needed -or beyond. The NEED for a mandate has been artificially created.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 12, 2021 4:57:56 GMT
Please, for the sake of your grandson and the sake of your own learning, get yourself to a PFLAG (Parents, Families, Friends of Lesbians and Gays) meeting. You may think you know what you need to know, but I'm pretty sure there are some gaps. People in this organization will help you, answer your questions, and help you learn how to best be a support to your grandson. As much as you'd like to believe he's in the hospital for abandonment issues, my non-clinical-former-middle-school-teacher self can almost guarantee there's more to it than that. It looks like PFLAG meetings are virtual right now. Easy peasy. Extremely good advice. Even if it's not the cause of his suicidal thoughts, think how supported he'll feel when he learns of your efforts, Rainbow. It can only help the family to be more educated on some of what he's experiencing in life. And maybe, just maybe he'll feel he has an ally in his family life and might actually confide more in you and you might learn even more of what he's feeling and going through than what he's only currently sharing. rainbow I'm praying that he gets the help he needs for whatever the issue is and recovers from this bad time in life and goes on to find happiness in his life. I'm praying for you to be able to do your best to help him, with whatever ability you have, and that the family gets passed this hard moment sooner rather than later and you all go on to find happiness together. but I did not know how to offer her comfort when this is her perspective. I guess it was ok to feel this way when it was my kid, but suddenly it's yours and now you want comfort? It must have been hard for you to hear things from Rainbow that were so hurtful. But now that's she's reaching out BECAUSE of her own experience, it's okay to realize that sometimes that's what it takes for growth and enlightenment. And only by offering her some knowledge and experience can she keep moving forward. Oprah often used to say something that has stuck with me. We're here to learn and we keep getting lessons and messages that start out in a whisper and if we don't listen, they get louder and louder, until sometime you may get that message that's more like getting hit by a rock. It seems like her grandson is the message via rock. Offering her some knowledge and experience can help keep her moving forward. It doesn't have to be you if you can't get passed her previous ignorance on the subject, but don't we in general WANT to help people come to understand differently than only an uninformed point of view?
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 12, 2021 4:15:26 GMT
That doesn't do anything to prevent or even explain away the deaths in companies of less than 100. I do blame Biden for the vaccine mandates. If more people agreed with you we wouldn't HAVE unnecessary mandates. The reality is: caveats put in the mandates by Biden contradict the so called importance of the mandates. I suppose you do have a valid point. If I understand you correctly, if public health emergency is really the basis of a mandate, then why the 3-month gap and why is it not being implemented with consistency across the board especially since civil liberties are implicated? It’s a logical argument. So, leave the decision to do or not to the individual states, schools, employers, etc since the power over public health is devolved to the states. (That’s why we cannot have a national lockdown.) But then I have to ask, what takes precedence in times of health-related emergencies such as this pandemic where saving lives is paramount—a temporary coercion by federal or absolute adherence to state authority? Because despite all efforts to encourage and incentivize people to get jabbed, our fully-vaxxed rate is a worrisome 61%, and I’m convinced that a mandate is what will serve the public’s interests best. If not this, then what? Do we have any other options? Just let it be? Because not all states will issue mandates. What's the solution? But then I have to ask, what takes precedence in times of health-related emergencies such as this pandemic where saving lives is paramount—a temporary coercion by federal or absolute adherence to state authority? Because despite all efforts to encourage and incentivize people to get jabbed, our fully-vaxxed rate is a worrisome 61%, and I’m convinced that a mandate is what will serve the public’s interests best. We are well passed that 61%. We passed 70% a while ago. The only difference is the added categories of children that changed the percentage - it didn't change the "science". If 70% was a good percentage to not need a mandate BEFORE the added categories changed the percentage, we're still at THAT same 70% or beyond. The NEED for a mandate has been artificially created.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 12, 2021 4:14:19 GMT
That doesn't do anything to prevent or even explain away the deaths in companies of less than 100. I do blame Biden for the vaccine mandates. If more people agreed with you we wouldn't HAVE unnecessary mandates.
The reality is: caveats put in the mandates by Biden contradict the so called importance of the mandates.That is your opinion; many people, including myself, disagree with you. Biden set the mandates. That's a fact, not an opinion. If Biden agreed with you that it's on the individual to get vaccinated and so is the consequence of not, he would have stuck to his word and not set mandates. That's a fact, not an opinion. The reality is: caveats put into the mandates by Biden contradict the so called importance of the mandates. That's a fact, not an opinion.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 12, 2021 1:03:27 GMT
Biden is saying by his words, actions, and mandates, that it's so important to "prevent death" that we must mandate vaccines. But "preventing death" is not important enough to do it right now, we can wait and let some people die until after the holiday shopping season. Biden is saying by his words, actions, and mandates, that it's so important to "prevent death" that we must mandate vaccines for companies over 100 employees. But "preventing death" is not important enough to mandate for anyone with under 100 employees, apparently those employees can die. I wrote in an earlier post that the administration felt that companies of over 100 people would more likely have the administrative personnel in place to keep track of who got vaccinated and who didn’t. I don’t blame Biden because if you don’t get vaccinated, then whatever happens to you is your fault. A surprising number of people agree with me. But you do you. I wrote in an earlier post that the administration felt that companies of over 100 people would more likely have the administrative personnel in place to keep track of who got vaccinated and who didn’t. That doesn't do anything to prevent or even explain away the deaths in companies of less than 100. I don’t blame Biden because if you don’t get vaccinated, then whatever happens to you is your fault. A surprising number of people agree with me. But you do you. I do blame Biden for the vaccine mandates. If more people agreed with you we wouldn't HAVE unnecessary mandates. The reality is: caveats put in the mandates by Biden contradict the so called importance of the mandates.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 11, 2021 22:51:52 GMT
I hate that song w/the light of a supernova. I don’t have twitter, so I can’t read the whole tweet, but I despise that song, so it’s all good. Although I think that sappy song about those stupid shoes is my most hated Christmas song. I hate that Christmas Shoes song too. Just a heads up, I don't have Twitter either but you can still click on the tweet and get the full picture.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 11, 2021 22:25:28 GMT
It's not my implication/suggestion. This is ALL Biden. Unnecessary mandate and all. You did say “Requiring businesses with 100 people to have a vaccine mandate. It's so important to be vaccinated in order to prevent death that it must be mandated. That leaves how many people to die because they are in a business with less than 100 people? ” I took you to mean that those people couldn’t manage to get vaccinated by themselves. Many of them, although certainly not all, are Trump supporters. I think that this vaccine resistance has political origins. And now you say that it’s Biden’s fault. I guess that I’m not sure what you are trying to say. Biden is saying by his words, actions, and mandates, that it's so important to "prevent death" that we must mandate vaccines. But "preventing death" is not important enough to do it right now, we can wait and let some people die until after the holiday shopping season. Biden is saying by his words, actions, and mandates, that it's so important to "prevent death" that we must mandate vaccines for companies over 100 employees. But "preventing death" is not important enough to mandate for anyone with under 100 employees, apparently those employees can die.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 11, 2021 20:50:17 GMT
Isn't that the entire point of the vaccine mandate, that people are too witless to determine for themselves? I know some pretty smart people who haven’t been vaccinated, so IMO it has more to do with political affiliation. They tend to be Trump supporters, so that would mean that many Trump supporters are witless. Is that what you are suggesting? It's not my implication/suggestion. This is ALL Biden. Unnecessary mandate and all.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 11, 2021 7:15:55 GMT
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 11, 2021 5:47:00 GMT
Let's not forget that most people dying at this point are UNVACCINATED. Anyone can spew what ever nonsense they want about how Biden is failing to deal with the covid crisis but no one in their right mind could possibly blame Biden for unvaccinated Americans dying. He and the Democrats have done everything they possibly can to get people vaccinated. It is the Republican party who are fighting getting vaccinated, fighting vaccine mandates and spreading false information about the safety of the vaccine. This a THOUSAND times. Not one single thing I said is false. I posted the facts and evidence previously in the vaccine mandates are working thread. And you posted your opinions there, too, which is exactly why this is a waste of time. I too posted facts along with any opinions. Just as you stated any facts along with your opinions. You're inability to tolerate facts about Biden that show his problems and failings, doesn't make them any less factual.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 11, 2021 5:31:54 GMT
Yes, Trump contributed in a big way, but don't discount the fact that Biden contributed to these numbers in a big way too. Biden ran on ending the virus. With that in mind he often puts public perception before following the science. His words and his experts words, don't always match up. What do you think that does to the trust of anything he says? How do you think that affects the decision process of those who aren't vaccinated yet? FDA's vaccine experts voted against the boosters. He knows better than the experts. At least 4 FDA vaccine experts resigned and more announced they were considering it. The CDC director, following the science, made an announcement about not needing vaccinations to open the schools. Biden dismissed that by saying she wasn't speaking officially. Not speaking officially - while sitting in front of a CDC panel. He lies about the vaccine and the fact checkers have to call him out. Biden is walking around maskless in places requiring masks. He's also coughing into his hand from his maskless face and then going to shake hands with strangers with that exact same hand. He takes off his mask to hang with the Carters indoors, putting them at risk and then puts it back on when he goes outside where it's not necessary to mask up. That defies logic. Not to mention science and safety. Biden said that he would not do mandates. He set a goal of 70% vaccinated in order to reach herd immunity to be safe. We surpassed that a while ago. So he changed the FACT that we DID hit percentage needed, by adding in children to the vax rates. That changed the "percentage reached" in order to "justify" mandate under threat of your job. Or threat of participating in society. He set a vaccine mandate because being vaccinated is so important to prevent deaths. So important to prevent deaths, that you aren't required to do so for 2 months. Allowing how many people to die in 2 months? Doesn't sound like a decision based on safety or science. It does sound like Biden policies contributing to the number of deaths. Requiring businesses with 100 people to have a vaccine mandate. It's so important to be vaccinated in order to prevent death that it must be mandated. That leaves how many people to die because they are in a business with less than 100 people? What do you think all that does to the trust of anything he says? How do you think that affects the decision process of those who aren't vaccinated yet? Sounds like Biden policies contributing to the number of deaths. Are you saying that people In businesses without mask mandates have been “left to die?” How so? The implication is that people in small businesses are too witless to determine for themselves that they should get vaccinated. That is quite an assumption. “ The Labor Department said it chose the 100-person benchmark because it is confident that employers with at least that many workers have the administrative capacity to enforce the mandate. ” Are you saying that people In businesses without mask mandates have been “left to die?” How so? The implication is that people in small businesses are too witless to determine for themselves that they should get vaccinated. That is quite an assumption. Isn't that the entire point of the vaccine mandate, that people are too witless to determine for themselves?
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 7, 2021 7:53:49 GMT
Nope, I’m just tired of arguing with you. It’s a waste of time. And I’m fairly certain that everyone here knows your tactics, the Republican playbook - gaslight, lie, spin, deflect, false comparison, false premise, false equivalency, whataboutisms etc. As far as vaccine mandates, here’s the 3rd part that matters. If Republicans spent as much time encouraging their base to get vaccinated as they do fighting mask mandates and vaccine mandates, we would not be in the current situation. Republican politicians need to get out of the way, stop promoting misinformation, step up and do the right thing to save the lives of the unvaccinated - primarily their voters. Speaking of tactics... Whenever people say truths you don't want to hear but you don't have a valid debate, you resort to personal attacks and try to bring "others" in to back up your bullshit. And I disagree that the mandates are working. They're causing even more distrust along with the other alienating and shady policies. We're losing valuable people in extremely important areas because of the mandates.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 7, 2021 7:12:44 GMT
Nothing I said was false. That's the only reason you can't point out anything false.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 7, 2021 6:52:51 GMT
Alright then. I'll remove my numbers, put your numbers, and just leave the quote from Biden since it still stands: The rest of the Biden words don't matter because Trump never said "he takes no responsibility for covid" as Biden tried to insinuate. Biden was called out buy the fact checkers for a number of untruths he told about Trump. And since this also still holds true. You’re entitled to your opinion. I’m not going to bother to point out the errors, falsehoods,misrepresentations etc in your “facts”. At the end of the day here’s what matters 1. Vaccine mandates work 2. Chances are good that Biden’s mandate will hold up in court How off brand of you. If I HAD any errors, falsehoods, or misrepresentations you'd happily point them out. Since you normally go around the board pointing out everything you think is wrong like it's your job.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 7, 2021 5:35:43 GMT
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 7, 2021 5:18:02 GMT
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 7, 2021 5:04:30 GMT
Alright then. I'll remove my numbers, put your numbers, and just leave the quote from Biden since it still stands: In October last year Biden said: “ 220,000 Americans dead. You hear nothing else I say tonight, hear this. Anyone who … is responsible for that many deaths should not remain as president of the United States of America.” 380,000 deaths under Biden's presidency. Think he'll hold himself to the same standards he set for someone else? The rest of the Biden words don't matter because Trump never said "he takes no responsibility for covid" as Biden tried to insinuate. Biden was called out buy the fact checkers for a number of untruths he told about Trump. And since this also still holds true. Yes, Trump contributed in a big way, but don't discount the fact that Biden contributed to these numbers in a big way too. Biden ran on ending the virus. With that in mind he often puts public perception before following the science. His words and his experts words, don't always match up. What do you think that does to the trust of anything he says? How do you think that affects the decision process of those who aren't vaccinated yet? FDA's vaccine experts voted against the boosters. He knows better than the experts. At least 4 FDA vaccine experts resigned and more announced they were considering it. The CDC director, following the science, made an announcement about not needing vaccinations to open the schools. Biden dismissed that by saying she wasn't speaking officially. Not speaking officially - while sitting in front of a CDC panel. He lies about the vaccine and the fact checkers have to call him out. Biden is walking around maskless in places requiring masks. He's also coughing into his hand from his maskless face and then going to shake hands with strangers with that exact same hand. He takes off his mask to hang with the Carters indoors, putting them at risk and then puts it back on when he goes outside where it's not necessary to mask up. That defies logic. Not to mention science and safety. Biden said that he would not do mandates. He set a goal of 70% vaccinated in order to reach herd immunity to be safe. We surpassed that a while ago. So he changed the FACT that we DID hit percentage needed, by adding in children to the vax rates. That changed the "percentage reached" in order to "justify" mandate under threat of your job. Or threat of participating in society. He set a vaccine mandate because being vaccinated is so important to prevent deaths. So important to prevent deaths, that you aren't required to do so for 2 months. Allowing how many people to die in 2 months? Doesn't sound like a decision based on safety or science. It does sound like Biden policies contributing to the number of deaths. Requiring businesses with 100 people to have a vaccine mandate. It's so important to be vaccinated in order to prevent death that it must be mandated. That leaves how many people to die because they are in a business with less than 100 people? What do you think all that does to the trust of anything he says? How do you think that affects the decision process of those who aren't vaccinated yet? Sounds like Biden policies contributing to the number of deaths.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 6, 2021 8:11:46 GMT
You are an idiot if you think President Biden has anything to do with these deaths. This is still fallout from trump’s reign of terror and the imbeciles who are still acting as if it is a hoax, and not vaxing or masking in their misguided loyalty to the pos who encouraged this belief to gain votes, but then went ahead and secretly got vaccinated to protect his own cowardly ass. So much of your right wing KoolAid-fueled rhetoric is downright laughable. Yes, Trump contributed in a big way, but don't discount the fact that Biden contributed to these numbers in a big way too. Biden ran on ending the virus. With that in mind he often puts public perception before following the science. His words and his experts words, don't always match up. What do you think that does to the trust of anything he says? How do you think that affects the decision process of those who aren't vaccinated yet? FDA's vaccine experts voted against the boosters. He knows better than the experts. At least 4 FDA vaccine experts resigned and more announced they were considering it. The CDC director, following the science, made an announcement about not needing vaccinations to open the schools. Biden dismissed that by saying she wasn't speaking officially. Not speaking officially - while sitting in front of a CDC panel. He lies about the vaccine and the fact checkers have to call him out. Biden is walking around maskless in places requiring masks. He's also coughing into his hand from his maskless face and then going to shake hands with strangers with that exact same hand. He takes off his mask to hang with the Carters indoors, putting them at risk and then puts it back on when he goes outside where it's not necessary to mask up. That defies logic. Not to mention science and safety. Biden said that he would not do mandates. He set a goal of 70% vaccinated in order to reach herd immunity to be safe. We surpassed that a while ago. So he changed the FACT that we DID hit percentage needed, by adding in children to the vax rates. That changed the "percentage reached" in order to "justify" mandate under threat of your job. Or threat of participating in society. He set a vaccine mandate because being vaccinated is so important to prevent deaths. So important to prevent deaths, that you aren't required to do so for 2 months. Allowing how many people to die in 2 months? Doesn't sound like a decision based on safety or science. It does sound like Biden policies contributing to the number of deaths. Requiring businesses with 100 people to have a vaccine mandate. It's so important to be vaccinated in order to prevent death that it must be mandated. That leaves how many people to die because they are in a business with less than 100 people? What do you think all that does to the trust of anything he says? How do you think that affects the decision process of those who aren't vaccinated yet? Sounds like Biden policies contributing to the number of deaths. Nope. Neither of these pathetic excuses explains away Biden's failing and downright shady policies that are contributing to the death toll. Except the measure that matters most... the death toll. Under Trump 220,000 (mostly without vaccines) Under Biden 397,000 (with vaccines and yet, still more people died under his leadership and policies)
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 6, 2021 1:51:12 GMT
In October last year Biden said: “ 220,000 Americans dead. You hear nothing else I say tonight, hear this. Anyone who … is responsible for that many deaths should not remain as president of the United States of America.” 397,000 deaths under Biden's presidency. Think he'll hold himself to the same standards he set for someone else? You are an idiot if you think President Biden has anything to do with these deaths. This is still fallout from trump’s reign of terror and the imbeciles who are still acting as if it is a hoax, and not vaxing or masking in their misguided loyalty to the pos who encouraged this belief to gain votes, but then went ahead and secretly got vaccinated to protect his own cowardly ass. So much of your right wing KoolAid-fueled rhetoric is downright laughable. Yes, Trump contributed in a big way, but don't discount the fact that Biden contributed to these numbers in a big way too. Biden ran on ending the virus. With that in mind he often puts public perception before following the science. His words and his experts words, don't always match up. What do you think that does to the trust of anything he says? How do you think that affects the decision process of those who aren't vaccinated yet? FDA's vaccine experts voted against the boosters. He knows better than the experts. At least 4 FDA vaccine experts resigned and more announced they were considering it. The CDC director, following the science, made an announcement about not needing vaccinations to open the schools. Biden dismissed that by saying she wasn't speaking officially. Not speaking officially - while sitting in front of a CDC panel. He lies about the vaccine and the fact checkers have to call him out. Biden is walking around maskless in places requiring masks. He's also coughing into his hand from his maskless face and then going to shake hands with strangers with that exact same hand. He takes off his mask to hang with the Carters indoors, putting them at risk and then puts it back on when he goes outside where it's not necessary to mask up. That defies logic. Not to mention science and safety. Biden said that he would not do mandates. He set a goal of 70% vaccinated in order to reach herd immunity to be safe. We surpassed that a while ago. So he changed the FACT that we DID hit percentage needed, by adding in children to the vax rates. That changed the "percentage reached" in order to "justify" mandate under threat of your job. Or threat of participating in society. He set a vaccine mandate because being vaccinated is so important to prevent deaths. So important to prevent deaths, that you aren't required to do so for 2 months. Allowing how many people to die in 2 months? Doesn't sound like a decision based on safety or science. It does sound like Biden policies contributing to the number of deaths. Requiring businesses with 100 people to have a vaccine mandate. It's so important to be vaccinated in order to prevent death that it must be mandated. That leaves how many people to die because they are in a business with less than 100 people? What do you think all that does to the trust of anything he says? How do you think that affects the decision process of those who aren't vaccinated yet? Sounds like Biden policies contributing to the number of deaths.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 5, 2021 19:41:53 GMT
How the hell can we just "move on" with numbers like this? TOTAL DEATHS 784,893 +1,492 New DeathsCDC | Data as of: December 4, 2021 1:23 PM ET. Posted: December 4, 2021 3:35 PM ET In October last year Biden said: “ 220,000 Americans dead. You hear nothing else I say tonight, hear this. Anyone who … is responsible for that many deaths should not remain as president of the United States of America.” 397,000 deaths under Biden's presidency. Think he'll hold himself to the same standards he set for someone else?
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 5, 2021 7:20:10 GMT
Mini Bonne Maman jars! I have love/hate relationship with all BM jars. We have so many empty jars of all sizes! I've been known to buy a different type/flavor just to get the different colored gingham lid. Problem is I have a hard time parting with them and they end up overtaking the cabinet space. For the 'petit pot', there are ideas on Pinterest. One is to put a hole in the center of the lid, then use it to hold a ball of string/thread. They also put matches in the jar, but they'd have to be short ones. Shot glasses! Votive candle holder. Good ideas on that pinterest link. I love the ones with the painted black lids with the painted black trinkets on top. Whatever you put in them would look good stored in those cute jars.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 1, 2021 3:58:53 GMT
THATS SO SCARY! I. hope you get well soon. I’ve had 5 vaccinations. Having #6 in two weeks. My bloodwork shows NO evidence that I’ve ever been vaccinated. I’m terrified to go out in public. How have you gotten 5 going on 6 when there are only 3? Where did you get them? I'm wondering why they aren't showing up in your blood work.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 1, 2021 3:55:09 GMT
Glad it's working and hope you get over it and feeling better soon.
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Post by pixiechick on Dec 1, 2021 3:45:18 GMT
Having had a significant reaction to my booster that sent me to the ER 3x, this super concerns me. I can't get any more doses. And I ha e a super high risk dd at home. This is what I wish the anti vaxxers would understand. Their "personal choice" can have dire consequences for people like my dd (fully vaccinated with booster). And those who truly can not be vaccinated. I got my booster on 11/19. I’ve been in a Boston hospital since Thanksgiving. Came in thinking asthma attack. Yeah but in addition to that my cardiac enzymes in my blood kept rising. I’ve had ALL the tests: CT, cardiac ultrasound, cardiac cath….everything is fine, no blockages, heart function is fine but there is a lot of inflammation. I’m here until Mon for a cardiac MRI. They’re wondering if the inflammation is caused by the booster (which I had a bigger reaction to than the previous 2 shots). That's really scary. I hope you get over this soon and return to back to normal.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 30, 2021 16:41:12 GMT
I would ask myself what I think SHE would appreciate... thinking she was included in the group, the first time back or knowing you left her out but were honest about forgetting her.
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