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Post by Olan on Jan 1, 2021 16:49:05 GMT
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Post by Olan on Jan 1, 2021 16:44:48 GMT
curious if the person she asked to empty their pockets was also a black person? Maybe the girl simply panicked and lost all judgment when she realized her phone went missing/got lost. It's a terrible feeling when you realize your phone is gone. Yes - it is a terrible feeling when you realize your phone is missing. But in what universe is it ok to assault a 14 year old CHILD because you assume he took it??? White women have been made to believe that only their feelings matter. And worse that lying on Black people is acceptable even if it results in the death of an innocent person. It’s really sick to see. A terrible feeling? She lost all judgement? If you are racist or even biased your poor judgement is the fucking problem. When the tapes are ran back it’s always the sheer lack of judgement that stands out to me. Like who behaves that way? And until camera phones everyone thought Black people exaggerated their lived experiences. |
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Post by Olan on Jan 1, 2021 14:52:21 GMT
They should’ve kept her away and from what I heard she also told a man to empty his pockets before attacking the dad and son coming off the elevator. curious if the person she asked to empty their pockets was also a black person? Maybe the girl simply panicked and lost all judgment when she realized her phone went missing/got lost. It's a terrible feeling when you realize your phone is gone. |
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Post by Olan on Jan 1, 2021 14:10:20 GMT
This won’t stop until someone is prosecuted and charged with a hate crime. Ironic the old threads and new thread have that correlation. Well not really when you consider my treatment has been just one miscarriage of justice after another. Not a single conviction for lynching thousands of black bodies so it’s no wonder a pea would argue with me that hate crimes “muddy” prosecution. Everyone refuses to acknowledge when hate crimes happen even when it’s fucking apparent no other explanation exists.
The truth of the matter is that white people can treat Black people in whatever disrespectful racist manner they wake up with and nothing will happen. In order for it to be an effective deterrent hate crime laws would have to used. And that’s if your state even has hate crime laws. Many states do not. Fairly cut and dry social justice work that no one has tackled. Again I will ask how long are Black people expected to just keep brushing this type of treatment off?
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Post by Olan on Dec 31, 2020 20:24:03 GMT
But what does identifying her do outside of provide momentary embarrassment and shunning until society moves on to another Karen incident. Mind you each incident is a human being. Often times several. Dad describes his instrument As his ticket out of Ferguson and now he has to witness his son harmed. His notoriety only helping after the fact. The momentum of these temporary public shamings never yield a society by which Black people are truly free. George Floyd anyone? Not one post about police shootings here since. That should bother you. It should move you to action. This shouldn’t be acceptable. The audacity of white people will drive you insane if you allow it to. And it’s really a testament to the character of Black people that we aren’t all out flipping our shit in your neighborhoods. If that happens please remember the years leading up to the event when Olan screamed hey guys please move your bodies in the direction of actionable change. |
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Post by Olan on Dec 31, 2020 19:43:55 GMT
Didn't she leave her phone in an Uber? If so, Uber has her info. So does the hotel. She was a guest days prior to her attacking the kid. |
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Post by Olan on Dec 31, 2020 19:10:05 GMT
If you want to keep a low profile and blend into the crowd so you will not be identified and located for possible retribution, you should not draw attention to yourself by attacking strangers in a public hotel lobby. Just saying. If it wasn't worth keeping a low profile to her, why should we care? And her phone must contain the nastiest photos and videos our minds can conjure. Like who goes that irrational over a phone. When she told the manager “he literally needed to get her phone back” she really meant it 😳and he responded just how white men have in the past. This time a kid didn’t die. Probably because his dad was a famous jazz musician |
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Post by Olan on Dec 31, 2020 18:56:07 GMT
I think as a whole generation, the younger ones are less racist. But there's always going to be individuals who are racist. But as a whole, I think our society is making progress. When you mean less racist I imagine a sliding scale where the most racist human protested a black child entering a school with a casket and at the very end of the scale lies what? Who is least racist? What does that look like? How does it impact the Black people they encounter? Please view my comment as a discussion and not an attack on you. Or me selectively reading the words you’ve typed 😜I say this not knowing our history since I’ve begun bringing up racial issues though I recognize your name. |
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Post by Olan on Dec 31, 2020 18:49:02 GMT
Why hasn’t she been identified? What do you mean “retaliation for an unrelated event”? You’d have to ask the young lady what she meant. CNN declined to name the woman citing her fear of retaliation from some event other than the one where she traumatizes this kid. |
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Post by Olan on Dec 31, 2020 18:47:25 GMT
I think the cancel culture is just temporary. I say this as a woman who devoted a good bit of time trying to keep a racist man canceled and he went on to join the United States armed forces 🤷🏾♀️I’ll post the thread below. O and ignore Elaine-Wohlgemuth Shilling trying to discredit my detective work she totally doesn’t have it out for me 🤣🤣😉 and neither does papercraftadvocate 😜 We also have highly identifiable photos of white women carrying a casket with a black doll inside meant to scare Ruby Bridges. Those women are still alive and being a nana right now. No one remembers. No one cares to track down who those women could be but they’ll be QUICK to scream well not everyone in Arkansas are horrible racists. Umm prove it. If you are a 14 yr old black kid tackled in a hotel lobby you won’t forget what happened to you but most everyone else will. Hell most people only will feign concern and will be waiting for the next Karen to be caught on tape. I know I sound pessimistic AF but how long. I mean really? Old thread: 2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/64426/crime-charges-sean-urbanski?page=22peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/85746/honoring-african-american-veterans |
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Post by Olan on Dec 29, 2020 14:43:50 GMT
I'm 58. In the last few months, I've noticed more stiffness in the mornings..especially my legs. I know losing weight will help. I walk and do strength training with my Skype trainer 3-4 times a week. Trying to add some yoga to help. Thinking that sugar may be a culprit...also not drinking enough water. I'm really just grasping for ideas...except for being overweight (which i need to work on), I have no other health problems. Anyone else? Protesting racial justice would melt the pounds off! If you are comfortable sharing your city I could find an organization you could link up with. I lost 26 pounds canvassing! |
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Post by Olan on Dec 29, 2020 11:06:42 GMT
🤣whenever I bump an old thread that didn’t age well the energy is never like this 👀 |
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Post by Olan on Dec 27, 2020 18:31:53 GMT
I don’t think any equipment would have saved Dr. Moore or the millions of other black people who have died due to medical neglect or systematic racism. |
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Post by Olan on Dec 24, 2020 13:35:53 GMT
www.nytimes.com/2020/12/23/us/susan-moore-black-doctor-indiana.amp.htmlAfter Dr. Moore, 52, complained about her treatment, she received care that she said “adequately treated” her pain. She was eventually sent home, and on Sunday, just more than two weeks after posting the video, Dr. Moore died of complications from Covid-19, said her son, Henry Muhammed. Dr. Moore’s case has generated outrage and renewed calls to grapple with biased medical treatment of Black patients. Voluminous research suggests that Black patients often receive treatment inferior to their white counterparts, particularly when it comes to relieving pain. “It’s had a huge impact,” said Dr. Christina Council, a primary care physician in Maryland who is Black, of Dr. Moore’s experience. “Sometimes when we think about medical bias it seems so far removed. We can sit there and say, ‘OK, it can happen to someone that may be poorer.’ But when you actually see it happen to a colleague and you’re seeing her in the hospital bed and literally pleading for her life, it just hits a different way and really hits home and says, ‘Wow, we need to do something.’”
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Post by Olan on Dec 18, 2020 15:42:46 GMT
Imagine killing someone at work and then being given MORE funding. amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/12/17/us/casey-goodson-shooting-body-cameras/index.htmlThe Franklin County Sheriff's Office in Ohio has secured $2.5 million for body cameras nearly two weeks after a young man was fatally shot by one of its deputies. Sheriff Dallas Baldwin said Wednesday's funding approval from the county Board of Commissioners will lead to greater transparency following the December 4 shooting in Columbus of Casey Goodson Jr. by deputy Jason Meade, a 17-year veteran who had been assigned to a U.S. Marshal's fugitive task force. Where is the outrage? What happened to the traction George Floyd’s death caused? Where are the people who care? |
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Post by Olan on Dec 9, 2020 14:13:11 GMT
Olan I am sorry. No tongue in cheek, no sarcasm. All seriousness. Thank you. |
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Post by Olan on Dec 9, 2020 14:12:51 GMT
From Olan's links Here is just one actionable idea from one of the links. Just one of over 100 actions to take to be anti-racist: Find out your city or town’s policy on no-knock warrants (the policy that led to Breonna Taylor’s murder). Contact your city or town government representative(s) and police chief to ban no-knock warrants I'm doing this one today. I'll do others in the coming weeks. ------ From the Smithsonian link: Being Antiracist at the Individual and Interpersonal Level When we choose to be antiracist, we become actively conscious about race and racism and take actions to end racial inequities in our daily lives. Being antiracist is believing that racism is everyone’s problem, and we all have a role to play in stopping it  Thanks for posting the graphics and amplifying my post! The list is super helpful to me as well. My activism is mostly maternal health related and having it all laid out how to be most effective took away my excuse to “stay in my lane” . I’m working through the list just like you so if anyone needs help or had a question feel free to reach out. |
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Post by Olan on Dec 8, 2020 23:14:17 GMT
I just want to apologize to everyone. I am deeply sorry and regret my previous post. Words are not for hurting and I am sorry and sad that my words caused pain. I do not want to be a hurtful person. I was insensitive, my words were unkind and I was wrong on so many levels. I should have read more thoroughly and thought things through before posting. I deleted my post as I do if I have said something that hurts, offends or is controversial. I am a visual person, so if I keep seeing something that is hurtful it continues to fester. Perhaps I am the only one like that. I have spent a lot of time since reading the Washington Post article and as many others as I could find, paying close attention to details. And I have been thinking a lot. I have concluded that being kind or friendly or sharing cookies is not the answer. They are not enough. That approach does not address the problem. The more I read and think about this, the more I believe that putting up the Black Santa's was the right decision. Showing, not telling is far more effective plus it was an action opposite of the offense. I couldn't imagine that I would be welcome here after making such a post, but I should have apologized first before deleting my account. There are peas I will miss, especially ones whose posts made me think. I will miss being able to ask questions. I regretted deleting my account immediately. But my feelings are irrelevant. The important thing is for this place to be your happy place. It takes a lot to come back and apologize. I appreciate it. |
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Post by Olan on Dec 8, 2020 14:59:14 GMT
Nothing I said was tongue in cheek. I find, as a white woman, it is very hard to have a conversation with you. Nothing I say seems right or right for you. In my eyes, you seem to pick and choose and tear apart anything anyone other than you says. I think if we could sit down on the couch and have a cup of coffee, tea, Coke, Pepsi, whatever, we might find there is some common ground between us. My "choose to live here" statement is from my personal experience in this town. There has been so much white flight and general malaise in my town. I chose to stay and make it better. That is what I meant. Scenario. You share with a male friend that you’ve been the victim of rape he immediately hugs you and says “well not all men”. How do you feel? Was his comment helpful to your healing? Are you still a rape survivor? We’ve already acknowledged how deadly racism is. Past and present. How much it hurt people. How hurtful it is to live in a country that elected 45. One who hasn’t really apologized for enslaving and harming my ancestors. Families changed by “yes my grandfather was lynched” or “my son was shot by the police” so when you say well not me it can not be viewed as anything but dismissive. Don’t stand behind that shit. You called out the capitalist pea worried about all the white Santas stuck on shelves why not lovingly correct this pea because you see what the hell happens when I do, don’t you? The I hope that’s enough for you. The jab at my cognitive abilities when she says some residents of Arkansas aren’t racist and unwelcoming and I make the logical inference she means the community SHE is apart wasn’t cool. You say you want to learn but when someone kindly points out where you’ve fucked up...that’s when the claws come out and of course I’m the bad guy who won’t have a Pepsi on the couch with you. A helpful ally ship trait is the ability to say hmm I can see why my comment is hurtful to someone who is the victim of racism I AM SORRY. Period. naby64 |
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Post by Olan on Dec 8, 2020 14:58:14 GMT
Even after you’ve addressed me with familiarity and TOLD me what I’m usually up to...I still don’t find it challenging to converse with you. Examine why this conversation is hard for you and see what you come up with🤷🏾♀️
Just because you don’t like what I have to say doesn’t mean I’m wrong or lack reading comprehension 😏
Your comment about “not all AR” comes from the performative spot a lot of activism comes from. How do people perceive me? What are the optics of this choice? A real how does my hair look kinda vibe.
As if we don’t already know how AR rolls?! Kinda insulting when you really think of it. Everyone Please consider NOT adding “well not all of us” the next time your state is being reported on. It’s dismissive. It’s hurtful. Especially if you live in a state with a history like AR.
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Post by Olan on Dec 8, 2020 14:32:14 GMT
I’m glad you’ve been welcomed into a community where you are the minority. I’m GUESSING when you said “not all of AR” you were referring to those people. Wasn't welcomed. Been here my whole life. As usual you pick and choose what to read. Like I said, I choose to stay in this little town. Working hard to bring it back. For every single person living here. As usual? Hmmm 👌🏿! I read 21% minority and then “I choose to live here.” I figured if you made the choice to stay it had to be a welcoming community. I also made the inference because black people don’t usually make their neighbors feel unwelcome. The cross burning HOA harassment, and redlining is RARELY our “thing”. It just isn’t. 🤷🏾♀️But I guess you’ve found the most unwelcoming community and decided to be the agent of change for ALL residents. That’s commendable. I asked about percentages when I was trying to get you to understand how problematic your “Not all AR” comment might be to black people. You were able to tell me what percentage you fell under but nothing else. But I’m the one who usually picks and chooses what to read 🤔 [br |
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Post by Olan on Dec 8, 2020 13:51:15 GMT
I’m glad you’ve been welcomed into a community where you are the minority. I’m guessing when you said “not all of AR” you were referring to those people. I just saw a meme that said “Have you ever been invited to a BBQ just because you like Nickleback” It was meant to make fun of the welcoming nature of Black people and the lack of reciprocity. I wanted to address this line: “I hope that’s enough for you” Going to address it like it was genuine and not tongue in cheek. Never worry if your activism is enough for Olan. I’m one black woman on a message board. One who has very concrete ideas about what activism looks like. One who belongs to an online Expat group and sees how much effort is put into rescuing Toucans and soliciting volunteers to fly stray dogs to their forever homes. One who thinks white people are too comfortable with how things are going/have gone. One who believes the shift to discomfort goes without saying. Especially since it would still be a more comfortable position than that of a black woman screaming “They are killing us, please make it stop”. One whose ego is smallish enough to know you shouldn’t give a damn what I think is enough if you know in your heart you are doing the righteous thing. 🤷🏾♀️ Some articles that anyone can refer to, to see if their activism is “enough”. medium.com/equality-includes-you/what-white-people-can-do-for-racial-justice-f2d18b0e0234medium.com/illumination/the-difference-between-performative-activism-and-genuine-allyship-c1071133d0e0nmaahc.si.edu/learn/talking-about-race/topics/being-antiracist |
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Post by Olan on Dec 7, 2020 16:09:28 GMT
Sadly, this is just north of where I live. Like cecilia said, we are not all like that is AR. I love that the neighbors rallied around this family. May I respectfully ask: How much of Arkansas’ racial history are you familiar with? Do you think that level of racial violence just dissipated over time? The perpetrators of that violence what happened to them and their families? If you had to guess what percentage of Arkansas residents would self identify as racist? Rough numbers/guesses are expected. What percentage of residents won’t self identify but engage in harmful racist thoughts or behavior? Number of Black residents whose lives have been touched by racial violence? The percentage of black residents who have had: A loved one lynched or killed by police. Been called nigger. Made to feel unwelcome (burned crosses or HOA harassment). Denied employment opportunities. Treated poorly in a classroom. Received inadequate medical care. etc. What percentage of residents would have to identify as anti-racist in order for Black residents to report zero instances of racial violence or discrimination? What would that look like? FTR or FTS while a response is appreciated quiet introspection is also perfectly fine. |
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