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Post by Olan on Aug 7, 2020 17:45:13 GMT
(Playing devil's advocate here, not saying I think the sentence makes any sense...) Without researching further, I'm wondering if the severity of the sentence hinged on his several prior convictions for various crimes. It seems like there have to have been some kind of extenuating circumstances to make this even remotely defensible. If you google racial disparities+sentencing. Or three strikes law+ racism there is a lot of information about cases like these. Hope that helps Edited to add: Also research the “war on drugs” of the 80-90’s and the current opioid epidemic look to see how they differ. The justice system is one place you don’t have to look very hard to find the blatant racism. |
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Post by Olan on Aug 7, 2020 17:39:49 GMT
I love reaction videos too. I bet the boys aren’t aware that country music, just like most genres of music, have African/African-American influence throughout. “Burns shows that, just like in rock, jazz and pop, every facet of country — from its instrumentation to repertoire to vocal and instrumental techniques — is indebted to African and African-American traditions, but commercial decisions by white industry executives led to their exclusion from the genre for decades. The black influence on country music starts with the banjo, which often conjures the hazy image of a white pastoral South. But the instrument is a descendant of West African lutes, made from gourds, that were brought to America by slaves and which became a central part of slave music and culture in the South. Soon, the instrument was standardized, appropriated and spread to white audiences through minstrel and blackface shows — which deeply informed the rise of hillbilly music, a term that would later be rebranded as “country music.” (The blackface performer Emmett Miller’s “Lovesick Blues,” for example, inspired Hank Williams’ own rendition of the song, which is still one of the most beloved songs in country history.) White banjo innovators like Earl Scruggs and David Akeman later made the instrument integral to the genre’s DNA, and black musicians mostly abandoned the instrument.” Time article: time.com/5673476/ken-burns-country-music-black-artists/?amp=true |
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Post by Olan on Aug 7, 2020 16:10:15 GMT
I think this is taking the focus away from what really went wrong last election season. Black people pretty much voted as a monolith because we knew it was a life or death vote for us and no we aren’t clairvoyant so it’s pretty comical that someone would be concerned about Kanye West swaying black voters. It’s insulting but on par for society
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Post by Olan on Aug 6, 2020 13:47:01 GMT
Karen behavior stems from white women being a “protected class”. The constant outbursts despite the possibility of going viral, are just tests to see what the climate is like. Kinda like a child testing boundaries. That’s why I think it’s important for white women to check each other. Especially in workplaces where white women tears are REALLY weaponized. It has little to do with masks. In fact if 45 would have come out saying masks were helpful in preventing the spread the MAGA sheep would have happily donned them just like they do those stupid red hats. www.smh.com.au/entertainment/books/crying-shame-the-power-of-white-women-s-tears-20190820-p52iy7.htmlRuby Hamad wrote this piece. Her book is a good read too |
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Post by Olan on Aug 5, 2020 21:59:01 GMT
Racism is nearly 100% responsible for 45’s presidency. We can go back and forth but it’s abundantly clear from where I sit.
Injustice trickles down. Had America tackled the issues of race during Obama’s presidency or hell decades before we wouldn’t be watching a video like this.
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Post by Olan on Aug 5, 2020 21:42:11 GMT
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Post by Olan on Aug 5, 2020 21:06:52 GMT
I think if anyone is genuinely concerned about a pea who is showing signs of mental illness according to some pea psychological online evaluation, that pea should be given grace and space. Mention of suicidal thought means stop poking. Whose good is it serving?
Also damn STD’s and the elderly😳. I saw cess pool and went off to research how swine flu spread in retirement communities. No idea the google path I’d be led down. Millennials are really getting shafted nobody will be able to retire to nice little retirement communities for orgies and late in life sexual discovery 🤣
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Post by Olan on Aug 5, 2020 19:54:54 GMT
As the mother of a black child now a grown man he tells me that we need compassion & kindness. Not compassion & kindness to just black people but to all. Terry Crews’ mom is a pea? |
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Post by Olan on Aug 5, 2020 19:53:43 GMT
I saw a video today of a Black man telling the story about getting pulled over by the police and for the first time ever for him, a white woman was nearby recording the police interaction. He was saying that’s something white people can do. Stand by and be allies. I didn’t catch the whole clip because I was watching it with subtitles and no sound, but the story and the subtitles suggested standing alongside and helping people as people. Advocacy is great but there has to be an engaged audience. I’m sure there are some people who are due reparations. The biggest thing that I’m seeing and hearing is to walk with and be my friend. Paraphrasing an old saying here. Don’t walk in front as I may not follow. Don’t walk behind or I may get lost. Walk next to me—together. I guess another way to say it is to not only talk the talk, but also walk the walk. I think my idea of the human shield isn’t far from this idea. Walk in front of me though. My body isn’t safe. We have to acknowledge that. If I had a white woman advocating for me and insisting I get the same treatment she does shit would have changed for me some time ago. Imagine what would have happened if white women spoke up during slavery and said no to at least splitting up families and raping women. Slavery still went on but those things that make my stomach turn as a woman...I really can’t see how white women allowed that to go down. I think white women are again being tasked with some hard choices and every time they decide to continue enjoying the comforts of privilege. When Tamir Rice died that should have been a call to at least take a look at how black communities were being policed. When I started the threads about police brutality everyone balked/complained ask why all I brought up were issues of race. Peas even agreed that if I was mistreated by police it would be because of something I said or did and not the propensity of police to bring harm/death to black women. That was the pea response just a few years ago. 🤷🏾♀️When Black people revolt it shouldn’t have come from left field. We are tired. Lay your body on the line for me in the same way my ancestors fed your ancestors. There is most definitely a debt here. The idea that black people pay taxes in counties where police departments have long standing histories of brutalizing communities is crazy to me. Blowing them up even! So while I’m certain I’m owed reparations I’d settle for white people dismantling racist systems without my help and a couple decades of not funding my own mistreatment. |
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Post by Olan on Aug 4, 2020 17:34:58 GMT
This may sound like a cop out, but I genuinely believe the answer is BOTH! I meant to add both and human shield as responses but couldn’t edit  |
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Post by Olan on Aug 4, 2020 17:31:56 GMT
I remember in a thread about black men being arrested in a Starbucks I shared an unpopular opinion (😏) that allyship really looked more like a human shield to me than anything else. So I’m wondering what’s the consensus on what Black people really need from white allies. www.history.com/.amp/topics/abolitionist-movement/john-brown |
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Post by Olan on Aug 4, 2020 16:14:49 GMT
This is not a commentary on the town. All towns have better and less than better areas. It is a commentary on the actions of a group of police officers who collectively must have felt this was appropriate. No matter what part of any town I am in, I can tell the difference between a motorcycle and an SUV. I also know that a group in an SUV out for a girl's spa day would not have been a threat to society if they had been allowed to wait in their car until law enforcement could have determined if it was an SUV or a motorcycle. And ok, I'll take your word that there is one good officer in that town. What percentage is that? Was he the same one that seemed concerned? I know good people that drive SUVs to spa days. I wasn't trying to defend the town or whatever.. just explaining to those who are not familiar with Aurora as best as I could. It could happen in any town any day. My friend wasn't there, he works a different division (I don't know how all that works... he is a traffic police so usually he isn't involved in any of these type cases).. And in any other town, there are the good cops and bad. We all know that. How would your first hand description of Aurora help anyone understand what happened in the video? |
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Post by Olan on Aug 4, 2020 16:10:45 GMT
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Post by Olan on Aug 4, 2020 15:54:42 GMT
90 days out. Really 91 but whose counting.
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Post by Olan on Aug 4, 2020 15:48:40 GMT
Why do you think this happened?
Can you imagine a scenario that would place white women and children on the pavement face down?
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Post by Olan on Aug 4, 2020 14:56:38 GMT
Yes it is. I don't agree with the fact that it took 5 officers to finally figure out they had the wrong vehicle. I don't agree that they were handcuffed and put on the ground. I simply said, that the one officer exhibited some kindness. He could have easily ignored them and just stood by. He did take the time to try to comfort them. Not every officer is evil. People on this board seem to forget these officers are fathers and sons. Just like the general population, some are kinder than others. |
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Post by Olan on Aug 4, 2020 14:33:15 GMT
Racism.
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Post by Olan on Aug 4, 2020 14:23:14 GMT
I have a very good friend who is an Aurora Policeman.. he is the nicest guy ever. He once got behind a car that was sitting on an off ramp that seemed to be having problems, went up to help them out, guy got out of the car with a hatchet and proceed to try to hit him over the head (with the blade). It was horrible. My friend after getting stitched up was okay but it sure took a toll on the kids and his wife. You never want to get that call on the 'special phone' in the middle of the night. Aurora has some not so good areas. (NOT that they have any right to pull those girls over at all). Aurora is just one of those funky towns that go from high end to low end within a few blocks. The town gets a bad rap. But I do agree, something needs to be done... |
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Post by Olan on Aug 4, 2020 14:18:38 GMT
That’s wonderful news. Congratulations! Both to you and him.
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Post by Olan on Aug 4, 2020 12:26:42 GMT
I am glad that at least one officer exhibited some kindness. He seemed to want to help and calm the kids. |
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Post by Olan on Aug 4, 2020 11:56:45 GMT
The mental gymnastics that occur when someone tries to explain conservative values or heritage.
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Post by Olan on Jul 21, 2020 14:27:17 GMT
That resonated and it’s why I encourage all my friends to journal or scrapbook as mothers. My mother has a best friend that I’m afraid to reach out...this may have put me over the edge. Oh, I hope you do. She may be afraid to reach out to you as well. Then, all those beautiful memories aren't able to bloom. I contacted her daughter on Instagram and we’ve exchanged numbers. I want to wait until I’m in a really good mood to call. I already felt a pang of jealously as the daughter described what her mother is up to these days. I wish my mother could have lived too. Thank you for the encouragement |
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Post by Olan on Jul 20, 2020 21:29:30 GMT
That resonated and it’s why I encourage all my friends to journal or scrapbook as mothers.
My mother has a best friend that I’m afraid to reach out...this may have put me over the edge.
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Post by Olan on Jul 18, 2020 21:12:07 GMT
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Post by Olan on Jul 18, 2020 21:06:44 GMT
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Post by Olan on Jul 18, 2020 13:09:31 GMT
The statue was removed in less than 24 hours. That’s how fast all the remaining Confederate ones should be toppled. Imagine if white women started a task force.
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Post by Olan on Jul 18, 2020 13:06:54 GMT
What an amazing man and life he lived. This one really hurt me. A lifetime of fighting and he died with the world in its current state. All that work. All those beatings. That bridge should have had a name change a long time ago. The gravity of too little too late seems to be missed on a lot of Americans.
A sad day. Rest in Power Ancestor
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Post by Olan on Jul 15, 2020 22:01:44 GMT
And since you can’t please everyone....why not honor the rapist eh. Makes perfect sense to the descendants of his victims. What’s the criteria for “acceptable people” because I know some deserving of honor. Yes, what is that criteria? If we really knew all the details of a person's life, would there be people worthy of memorials? I'm not sure there would be. Perhaps one lesson would be not to set people on pedestals. That would still mean no rapists in the center of cities so I’d be perfectly fine with no pedestal people. I do think there are folks who lived exemplary lives though. Many of whom are my ancestors. Acknowledge real heroes. America’s foundation ain’t shit until we do. |
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Post by Olan on Jul 15, 2020 20:17:52 GMT
Do we not have any statues or monuments that would be acceptable? Any buildings or freeways named after acceptable people? My guess is not. Every person is offensive to someone. Who do you think should be acceptable? This is not to imply that Confederate statues and such should not be removed. I mean, there’s a big difference between “I didn’t like someone’s political stance” and “He raped his slaves.” And since you can’t please everyone....why not honor the rapist eh. Makes perfect sense to the descendants of his victims. What’s the criteria for “acceptable people” because I know some deserving of honor. |
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Post by Olan on Jul 15, 2020 14:09:34 GMT
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