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Post by Olan on Jul 9, 2020 14:03:46 GMT
I just turned 35. I would have cried but the CDC recommended I stop touching my face 🤷🏾♀️. I joined 2peas when I was 21/22 I think 35 is a great age. You are old enough to not give a damn what others think. Happy belated birthday. Thank you! |
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Post by Olan on Jul 8, 2020 22:46:42 GMT
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Post by Olan on Jul 8, 2020 16:56:01 GMT
I just turned 35. I would have cried but the CDC recommended I stop touching my face 🤷🏾♀️. I joined 2peas when I was 21/22
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Post by Olan on Jul 8, 2020 16:01:19 GMT
Lack of impulse control Mental health issues Knowing their privilege will mean no consequences It’s important to note I’ve spent thousands and thousands of dollars on gym memberships and specialized training. I won’t be videoing someone verbally or physically attacking me and it’s unlikely this is a feeling exclusive to me. I hope you mean "thinking" their privilege means no consequences, because there are (finally) now consequences for the horrible people doing this and being filmed. They are losing their jobs and basically their lives and I hate to say I am happy about that, but I am. However, to answer OP, people are very entitled. They just think they are right and they have a president behind them who agrees with them. It empowers them, unfortunately. I don’t think it’s a permanent consequence. Eventually they will return to work and likely even change their names. An asshole I worked hard to ensure had lasting consequences for his racist behavior went on to join the military. The empowerment they feel shouldn’t shock us and we can’t blame 45. Racial violence has went unpunished for hundreds of years and continues to have little or no consequence. I’m no longer leaving it to society to decide what should happen to people who wrong me because I already know how society views black women. 2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/85746/honoring-african-american-veterans |
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Post by Olan on Jul 8, 2020 15:52:30 GMT
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Post by Olan on Jul 8, 2020 15:23:05 GMT
Lack of impulse control
Mental health issues
Knowing their privilege will mean no consequences
It’s important to note I’ve spent thousands and thousands of dollars on gym memberships and specialized training. I won’t be videoing someone verbally or physically attacking me and it’s unlikely this is a feeling exclusive to me.
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Post by Olan on Jul 7, 2020 18:18:05 GMT
Regarding being called out...when has calling out a pea prompted a change in behavior from that particular pea or even a change in “group thought”. I’ve never seen it happen 🤷🏾♀️. Call outs are almost always pile ons. When I call someone out I don’t expect that doing so will change their day to day behavior anymore. I’m doing it because I can’t sit on my hands. Ha! I’ve been examining the function of all the things I put effort into doing with all this shelter in place action 😂 Note: As someone who spent time calling out peas please know folks are going to continue being the assholes they are regardless of how much energy you put into pointing out where they are wrong. It’s just the nature of things. Excellent point. This unwillingness to change would explain why you continued to weirdly like old posts and tag me the day after playing victim and saying you didn't want to engage in this very thread. You're a bully. And your claim that "all" you did was post Elaine's full name is bullshit. You posted geographical info and information about some of her other activities. You engage in a lot of revisionist history to excuse your own bad behavior. That isn’t true. admin or some other pea who witnessed what actually happened could set you straight. We could also go with your narrative and everything would remain the same. I’d still be here. You’d still be there. Elaine will most definitely still be here...The world on its axis. Divest in something that’s largely between another pea and I. Or don’t. |
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Post by Olan on Jul 7, 2020 16:19:39 GMT
“Heaven gained an angel. Carsyn did not have an easy life."
😳 And we know with the way the justice system is set up these parents probably won’t ever see a day in jail. Sick.
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Post by Olan on Jul 7, 2020 15:54:30 GMT
Regarding being called out...when has calling out a pea prompted a change in behavior from that particular pea or even a change in “group thought”. I’ve never seen it happen 🤷🏾♀️. Call outs are almost always pile ons. When I call someone out I don’t expect that doing so will change their day to day behavior anymore. I’m doing it because I can’t sit on my hands. Ha! I’ve been examining the function of all the things I put effort into doing with all this shelter in place action 😂
Note: As someone who spent time calling out peas please know folks are going to continue being the assholes they are regardless of how much energy you put into pointing out where they are wrong. It’s just the nature of things.
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Post by Olan on Jul 7, 2020 14:10:48 GMT
It is. Doesn’t mean the world stops. On my very best of days I think joy is the biggest show of resistance to racist MF’ers but I’m supposed to be packing and I hate packing so blah mood 😣. I do hope the last leg of your dissertation is easy peasy and the world opens back enough that you can celebrate such an accomplishment. Are you packing to go anyplace good? No way this dissertation is going easy, as long as I can get it done I’ll be thrilled. Just one condo building to another though I think what’s making me irritable is fighting the desire to flee altogether. And I’m sure you will get it done. I’ve been the accountability kick in the ass for two PhD candidates. Only one shouted me out in their dissertation though 🙄 Just keep plugging away! |
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Post by Olan on Jul 6, 2020 20:05:13 GMT
I still can’t believe the rescue organization returned the dog. I bet a greyhound rescue would never 😏
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Post by Olan on Jul 6, 2020 20:02:15 GMT
Well that's a much more worthwhile goal than what I wrote. Wow, I read the article. And I don't know what to say. I'm sorry. That's beyond awful. It is. Doesn’t mean the world stops. On my very best of days I think joy is the biggest show of resistance to racist MF’ers but I’m supposed to be packing and I hate packing so blah mood 😣. I do hope the last leg of your dissertation is easy peasy and the world opens back enough that you can celebrate such an accomplishment. |
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Post by Olan on Jul 6, 2020 18:43:24 GMT
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Post by Olan on Jul 6, 2020 18:09:07 GMT
Maybe I'm mistaken - who else here is in their 20s/early 30s? Anyone? Me! I was also on the old board, but I barely used it or even remember what was going on there. I wonder what’s the average age of a pea now? |
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Post by Olan on Jul 6, 2020 0:54:13 GMT
At the risk of overstating the obvious, we are at a particularly complicated traffic circle of competing crises. We are going to circle repeatedly until we find an exit route, hopefully to a better destination. My truth is that I and other POC have been talking and fighting systemic racism including police issues for entire lifetimes, for centuries. While I can understand and appreciate that for even the most well-meaning allies, their eyes opening is a process, it is beyond frustrating to keep waiting. Their truth is something I understand intellectually, but grow impatient with emotionally. I try, but I also know I no doubt fall short on occasion and if I have hurt anyone, I apologize for that. I can totally relate to what you’ve said here. A traffic circle is a great analogy |
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Post by Olan on Jul 6, 2020 0:23:56 GMT
That would mean I went around intentionally engaging certain peas when it’s abundantly clear who followed who around. Bullshit. You do it to me as well. Denial - not just a river in Egypt Add bully of pjaye to the list of charges against Olan. Again alllll found in my post history 🤣😜 You’ve got to consider the number of hours I log on 2peas and the fact that my post history is pretty easy to sift through. Not to mention I am pretty consistent and judging by the SAME peas interacting here in this thread with me y’all are too 😏. I can count on the same loyal Olan hating peas. Old Olan would tag and quote each of you like I needed to prove something. Now I’ve either consistently ignored or shot down every opportunity to engage with you guys and that still doesn’t change your desire to let everyone know how horrible I am. What are you trying to prove? To whom? Victim, bully, mentally ill, bitter, angry. None of that shit moves me anymore. Think of me what you will 🤷🏾♀️It would be great if you stopped telling me like I care but I know that would leave little enjoyment in your corner of the world. I get that many of you thrive off the drama and there was a time I fed into it. It was futile then and now. |
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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2020 23:20:58 GMT
He might take votes away from Biden. Because there are lots and lots of really stupid people out there who might vote for him. Probably not anywhere near the same number who voted for 45 so take some solace in that. We may be okay |
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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2020 23:07:28 GMT
My hiking buddy sent me this last month when Black Parade came out. His message was “First Brown Skin Girl now this 😳” 😂🤣 youtu.be/ociMBfkDG1wAHHHH!!!! Hahahaha Hahahahaha! Omg, how did I miss this when it aired?! “Maybe this isn’t for us?” “BUT EVERYTHING USUALLY IS!” Omg. Hilarious. I was scared for months thinking I would go viral because I stood behind a group of white women singing Solange’s FUBU. This was my Lecrae moment if y’all are familiar with the recent ChickFilA debacle 😩🤣. I just knew black folks were gone eat me alive. The optics were plausible for a viral moment too I had on brightly colored rain boots and during the next set a very pregnant woman twerked next to her transgender lover as Cardi B performed pregnant! The white women chanting “This shit is for us” moment before unchecked would have been the icing! genius.com/Solange-fubu-lyrics |
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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2020 22:48:06 GMT
Olan - it's also very possible that I can't relate as much because I'm childfree (by choice) and always will be. Reading about kids doesn't excite me. I wasn't thinking about that when I wrote my post but I'm glad you pointed out that example! I’m child-free by choice (riding the fence in this now or never season) but it’s been awhile since the board was kid-centric. I mean nowadays it’s mostly mother of the bride/groom dress questions. It’s just what was on trend 15 years ago. I hate saying anything happened to me 15 years ago 😣 I was just trying to make a connection about why many feel like the community feel has dissipated. Though you think political threads are circular those mommy war threads were just as bad so I don’t know it was just a guess. Some helpful shelter in place pea knowledge Flexitol will remove the calluses from your heels in like 2 days. It’s magic. I bet a ped-egg vs Flexitol thread could go South if I was the author 😝🤣 |
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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2020 22:24:39 GMT
I read through this whole thread and noticed some interesting things. In a thread asking if people are bullies, we have people choosing to get defensive and lash out at others because of how they phrased a post. We have people who don't want every thread to turn political making this one more and more political by mentioning that the subject keeps coming up. We have people calling others names and then getting upset when it's pointed out. I'm not saying anything at all about these points, they're just some things I noticed while reading. Personally, I think not wanting to engage in politics and choosing to stay away from them altogether (here or otherwise) is a HUGE sign of privilege. Not everyone gets to just shut it off and walk away, especially with the dumpster fire we have "leading" the US. I'm a democratic socialist - don't expect me to sugarcoat my political beliefs, haha. Anyway, I've been lurking a lot more than I've been posting ever since my office reopened a month ago though I wasn't a huge poster anyway. Similar to jeremysgirl, I very often feel like an outsider. I'm one of the youngest people here, so I don't understand a lot of life experiences or references. I was never on the old board, so there is zero frame of reference for what it was like back there. I don't feel that I have many peers that I can relate to. Maybe I'm mistaken - who else here is in their 20s/early 30s? Anyone? However, I understand that that is a "me" problem and that I should be trying harder to engage with my more experienced Peas (I don't want to use the word "older" as I don't think of anybody here as old) and get to know you all a bit better, and see more of where you're coming from. I also agree that big opinions should be backed up, not in an attacking way, but because we're on a public forum - this place is for conversation! Sharing why you (general you) feel a certain way about something is part of discourse. It shouldn't be something that people should be made to feel bad about or ridiculed over. We're on a message board. What's your message? Let's discuss it! Aside from all of this, the most important thing we can do here is choose how we interact with this board. We choose to click on certain threads. We choose to believe that general words are about us. We choose to react to posts and we choose how those reactions come out - silly, snarky, defensive, downright mean. We're making active CHOICES and if we aren't happy here, then we can make the CHOICE to step back and take a breather. If you are consciously choosing to click into a thread that you know will make you all riled up, then ask yourself, why are you putting yourself into that position? As far as I know, nobody is forcing us to read all of the threads or stay on the board at all - I don't mean to leave permanently, but it's okay to not log on every day if you feel it's detrimental. I also think that we American Peas need to remind ourselves that not everybody here is American and not everybody here shares the same cultural values and practices. I see that problem on Reddit all the time, too. We're a pretty self-centered nation (Covid has proven that 10x over) and I feel that that is something that we should be thinking about and working on. Before anyone latches on to "we" and tells me that they aren't like that at all..... if my words don't apply to you, then that's great! But don't twist them. Leave them be and let somebody else reflect on them instead. You've all made me hungry for parsnip soup, by the way.... I’m mid 30’s and have been around since I was in my early 20’s I don’t recall feeling like I couldn’t relate. I enjoyed the kid posts (good chunk of the board in those days) and actually felt apart of the community. I love how you framed the choices as ACTIVE. I struggled with that. It’s definitely a choice how you choose to engage online though. I wonder if aging children meant peas have fewer “non-touchy” topics to agree on. Because good or bad a community is a group of like minded people. |
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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2020 21:41:40 GMT
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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2020 21:24:53 GMT
2peas shouldn’t be the only place we discuss politics, anti-racism, COVID safety etc.
If you feel shut down here please find other resources. We all have a societal responsibility.
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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2020 21:16:20 GMT
This is interesting. But I've clearly got to dig further. Because I want to understand why she felt Hamilton harms black people. I need to know more than just this article. Because I came away from Hamilton (I saw it in the theater last year) feeling like it was just meh. It wasn't the music (I happen to like rap) but it was the whole story overall. And I thought to myself that maybe I would rewatch on Disney + with the closed captions to get a better sense of the dialogue. Now I want to learn a bit more about Toni Morrison's perspective and then view it again. Look at it more critically if you will. I guess what I'm saying is I want to know if there are specific ways and things about Hamilton that are actively harmful to black people or if the perspective is that showing our founding fathers in musical form for the purposes of entertainment is the overall offense simply because they subjugated black people at that time which of course is offensive, but it is also a fact. And then I want to know if we want people to simply know the facts and have the relevant discussions or if we are seeking to not entertain people with history altogether because our historical figures engaged in some dirty behavior. I am wondering Olan if you have more links about this. I'm going to Google but seeing as how you added this here I am curious if you can direct me to understanding your perspective better. And I hope I have not been offensive. I'm trying to sort this all out in my own mind Hi! This OpEd was posted a couple hours ago. It really helped me understand what issue I should take with Hamilton because honestly as a black woman it’s hard to know exactly how to be on the “right side” of all of this. And by right side I mean having everything I ingest, invest in, enjoy etc align 100% with my core moral values. There are varying degrees of woke (I heart Woke Wandas) you don’t have to know everything. If your interest is fiber arts focus on how you can support black people in the fibers community. That doesn’t mean you can’t plug your ears and enjoy Hamilton. It’s important to understand why I can’t though. www.cnn.com/2020/07/05/opinions/hamilton-movie-mixed-messages-black-lives-matter-morales/index.htmlI’m a big Toni Morrison fan and my journey to researching Hamilton began just like the author of the article I posted up top. I saw the meme and thought hmm what’s Hamilton all about. Admittedly I’m not into theater. That includes Tyler Perry 😂 |
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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2020 19:39:39 GMT
You challenged my mental health to silence me. Period. Whatever history we’ve had you willingly participated in. It’s dishonest to say I’ve harassed anyone. That would mean I went around intentionally engaging certain peas when it’s abundantly clear who followed who around. This is the second time you’ve referenced the situation between Elaine and I inaccurately. I’ve asked you to ignore me and have let you know I don’t plan to engage (several instances across many threads) nothing about that says harassment. Actually calling it that is an outright lie and revisionist AF. I won’t try and rally anyone to call out your behavior for what it is because again this place never changes. It’s probably why we are all still here. Acknowledge I’ve tried for at least a year to get you to simply ignore my posts/threads and not speak to me. Both you and Elaine. Both of you would rather fight even though it’s clear I’ve washed my hands. Predictable I’ve never deleted a post and stand by everything I’ve ever said here. I have an inbox full of pea apologies and haven’t responded to a 1. I’m perfectly fine with everyone keeping the same energy they’ve always maintained. You play games, Olan. Tell people to leave you alo ng e and then randomly like a bunch of old posts or tag them. And I did not challenge your mental health to silence you. You harass several people on a regular basis and then play victim. I can be a bitch. I own it. If someone challenges me, I don't play victim. I own what I say and I don't distort the truth. Yep! And it’s all discernible from my post history. All the best to you inkedup Olan |
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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2020 19:11:51 GMT
Managing your emotional response to an online forum helped me tremendously. I recommend everyone give it a go. Not everything deserves your reaction. More often than not the other personal is miserable and the only reason why you’d go back and forth is if you are miserable too. There is a direct correlation between days I spend more than a couple mins on 2peas and me needing a distraction from something out of my control. A note: Whatever you think about Olan is fine. I don’t have a desire to change the collective mind. I’m fine being viewed as mentally ill, angry, vapid, bitter, whatever adjective you can come up with. Be on notice that who you are is just about as clear as who I am though! We are all a collection of the words we’ve typed in that box. |
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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2020 18:57:39 GMT
You challenged my mental health to silence me. Period. Whatever history we’ve had you willingly participated in. I t’s dishonest to say I’ve harassed anyone. That would mean I went around intentionally engaging certain peas when it’s abundantly clear who followed who around. This is the second time you’ve referenced the situation between Elaine and I inaccurately. I’ve asked you to ignore me and have let you know I don’t plan to engage (several instances across many threads) nothing about that says harassment. Actually calling it that is an outright lie and revisionist AF. I won’t try and rally anyone to call out your behavior for what it is because again this place never changes. It’s probably why we are all still here. Acknowledge I’ve tried for at least a year to get you to simply ignore my posts/threads and not speak to me. Both you and Elaine. Both of you would rather fight even though it’s clear I’ve washed my hands. Predictable I’ve never deleted a post and stand by everything I’ve ever said here. I have an inbox full of pea apologies and haven’t responded to a 1. I’m perfectly fine with everyone keeping the same energy they’ve always maintained. That is not true. I once mistakenly called another pea by your name on a very supportive post I was making to her and you ATTACKED me for it because the other poster was AA. You berated me and demanded an answer about WHY I got you two mixed up. Insinuating something. I ignored your stupid post but you followed me around and bttd other threads I was posting on unrelated trying to get my attention simply to pick a fight. So just stop tryinig to paint yourself here as some kind of martyr. It's all so ridiculous. After that I no longer care to interact with you and haven't since just now. I've literally seen you grow up on this board, it's a shame really but I had to answer to this. I've been on both sides of the political spectrum over the years and I used to be absolutely obnoxious about it and I apologize for that. These days I'm solidly in the middle and am a lot more tolerant now. Hopefully this thread causes us all to pull back a little with the name calling and threats. I know I've changed, and I'm glad. Now back to my Animal Crossing threads where there are only happy posts and kindness. Please post the thread. It’s an easy find. Took me .5 seconds. It would be great if everyone quit referencing pea happenings in a gossipy way when there is post history OlanLet everyone else see what an “ATTACK” looks like. The fact that you took time away from your Animal Crossing thread says something. 😂 |
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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2020 18:35:27 GMT
For a while, my anger and really, my fear, became my overriding emotion. I have taken steps back from social media in general because I constantly felt on edge and angry. I am sure many of you consider me a "pitchfork pea". I have made an effort to temper the tone of my posts here. I will say, though, that there are an awful lot of people with sorry hands that complain about this place being dirty. A pea with whom I have long standing disagreements has spent the last few years harassing me and others. She doxxed a member here. The story she tells is that I challenged her mental wellness, as if that happened in a vacuum. So yes. Some of us have been and can still be nasty at times. I'm trying to keep my interaction here positive and supportive. But this thread and a few others have been filled with a lot of passive aggressive attempts at call outs and I'm not going to lie, it's getting old. Because really, what's not being said is that a bunch of you think it's a group of *liberal* peas that are bringing this place down. You challenged my mental health to silence me. Period. Whatever history we’ve had you willingly participated in. It’s dishonest to say I’ve harassed anyone. That would mean I went around intentionally engaging certain peas when it’s abundantly clear who followed who around. This is the second time you’ve referenced the situation between Elaine and I inaccurately. I’ve asked you to ignore me and have let you know I don’t plan to engage (several instances across many threads) nothing about that says harassment. Actually calling it that is an outright lie and revisionist AF. I won’t try and rally anyone to call out your behavior for what it is because again this place never changes. It’s probably why we are all still here. Acknowledge I’ve tried for at least a year to get you to simply ignore my posts/threads and not speak to me. Both you and Elaine. Both of you would rather fight even though it’s clear I’ve washed my hands. Predictable I’ve never deleted a post and stand by everything I’ve ever said here. I have an inbox full of pea apologies and haven’t responded to a 1. I’m perfectly fine with everyone keeping the same energy they’ve always maintained. |
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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2020 18:21:19 GMT
Did y’all know that black and brown kids are disproportionately disciplined in schools and that instead of actually thwarting a school shooting or saving lives police presence in schools just serve to harass Black youth. Another instance of racism making us all less safe. Is this also true in schools that are predominantly black? I used to work at a predominantly black elementary school (I think there were 10 white and Hispanic kids tops at that school). I did not find this to be true at my particular school. Our SRO was there to make sure there weren’t weapons, and to investigate abuse allegations and to break up fights. I have always wondered about this. Just curious. The function of why they are even in the schools change if it’s predominantly black school. Black neighborhoods and schools are policed and white schools and neighborhoods are protected. If you live in an all white neighborhood think about what police presence is like in your area. I’m not an expert or an educator but the research is out there. Tons of studies done regarding race discrimination education anti racism etc. Why this isn’t apart of the conversation when we discuss school shootings I’ll never know. Research: nicic.gov/girlhood-interrupted-erasure-black-girls-childhood-2017Keyword search “equitable schools” or start with Georgetown Law Center or another university doing the work of making schools equitable. |
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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2020 17:54:26 GMT
I find this an interesting perspective. I get my news from as many perspectives as I can. CNN, FoxNews, NPR, NYT, BBC, Reuters, AP, as well as other online sources. I would think that if Hamilton is to be critiqued, it should be from personal knowledge, not just what someone has said (even if it is Toni Morrison). I think if the BLM movement has taught us anything, it's that we need to educate ourselves, not just rely on others to explain it to us. You may find the even the most respected person may or may not have the same perspective you do. I’m not sure I understand what you are saying? We shouldn’t be basing our dislike of Hamilton off the criticism of a literary great? Even the author of the article acknowledges the opinion is what made her research and find out more. |
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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2020 17:22:49 GMT
If I've missed something on that thread then anyone/everyone is free to correct me. Who is the OP??? Says Deleted?? I don't condone if someone said that to her , but her first comment about parents needing to blame themselves for not advocating for better security?? WTF Did y’all know that black and brown kids are disproportionately disciplined in schools and that instead of actually thwarting a school shooting or saving lives police presence in schools just serve to harass Black youth. Another instance of racism making us all less safe. |
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