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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 20, 2021 13:48:00 GMT
My problem with this statement is that it places blame too broadly. A little precision goes a long way. Children and others who can’t get vaccinated aren’t purposefully dying and overwhelming hospitals. It should have specified, “For those who chose not to get vaccinated you’re looking at a winter of… and the harm done to those who don’t have a choice in the matter.” Also, the extra congratulatory “you did the right thing, we’re gonna make it through” also glosses over a lot of variation in how vaccinated people behave. Some don’t see the need to mask, get boosters, or social distance. That’s also not helping. I’m all for telling it like it is, but I think this misses the mark. While I agree, I think that those who are taking great umbrage over the wording—when pretty much every adult knows exactly what was meant. It’s not loads of children taking up hospital beds. It’s unvaccinated adults who are putting a burden on our medical system. It’s adults who are choosing—for political reasons (because they’re definitely not following medical or science) who are making it hard for everyone over their “freedom”. They’re causing loss of freedoms, running people out of business, overwhelming, bullying, and just being plain ignorant about this virus. They’re the ones always using alternative comparisons “oh cancer kills” “people die from hiking” “obesity kills” and other bullshit distractions. They know damn well what was meant, however since it’s the reality—the cold hard truth that they don’t like, they’re going to try to gaslight it away like everything else and shift the blame/cause away from those who refuse to take it seriously and get vaccinated. I’m so sick to death of dumb people. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 20, 2021 12:12:43 GMT
Love it!!!!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 20, 2021 0:32:50 GMT
They canceled performances in Cleveland too.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 19, 2021 21:46:59 GMT
Yes but most causes of death aren’t contagious! Not going to catch a heart attack or cancer from someone. As far as the original question, we are vaxxed and boosted and so are our friends so we socialize and travel as we want and mask if needed. Our daughter just graduated nursing school this week but has worked in the hospital around Covid patients since March. But as people rightly point out, a major worry with Covid is that it can overwhelm the hospitals and people can't be treated for other emergencies. Many people in hospital with heart attacks and obesity related conditions are taking up hospital beds because of unhealthy choices they made. Should we create BMI passes were only people who are a healthy weight can buy junk food and eat at unhealthy restaurants? Should people not be allowed to climb mountains or ski or do other risky activities because theres a chance of an accident and that puts hospitals under pressure? It’s sickening and completely gross that people like you continue to compare a pandemic, highly contagious disease to hiking and obesity. Before you open your trap again, why not get educated on what “contagious “ means. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 19, 2021 16:03:49 GMT
Stupid me. Normally I am SUPER suspicious. Just now, I very nearly just gave a scammer my CC info. I got notification of a Zappos delivery. But I didn’t get it. This morning, I got a text from “UPS” saying they attempted delivery but no one was home to sign for it. So they have it at the UPS storage facility. And that if I don’t respond in 2 days, they will send it back. And I owe $1.20 for a storage fee. There was an official looking form to fill out with my address and a place to enter my CC info to pay the fee. I had already entered my address when my common sense kicked in. All the red flags I nearly missed: #1: I was home yesterday. #2: I already had part of the order delivered when I wasn’t home. #3: Since when do you have to sign for a Zappos order? They usually just throw them at my door and hope they get close. #4: The storage facility was pretty far away….meaning I would be happy to pay the $1.20 to not have to drive all the way there. #5: Since when does UPS charge a “storage fee”? #6: All of my Zappos orders are usually delivered in an Amazon truck. #7: Looking at the text closer, it didn’t mention Zappos at all….just “my package.” Duh…they’re just throwing random texts out there assuming we’re all having packages delivered right now. #8: My shoes are waiting for me in my Amazon locker. Don’t be stupid like me. Seriously….how did I almost fall for that? I get texts like that a few times a week. I just block them and delete! |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 19, 2021 14:40:07 GMT
It drives me nuts when people act like those who wear masks are idiots. Someone told me in the grocery store a few weeks ago that I need to take my mask off and stop watching CNN. I looked him right in the eye and asked him why he cared, how did my wearing a mask have anything to do with him. It drives me nuts when people act like those who DON’T wear masks are idiots. If you are masked and vaxxed, you are protected. If you tell me that’s not true then the vaccines and masking mean nothing. You yourself, with your own post, proved the point of idiocy. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 19, 2021 14:34:50 GMT
I mean, people are literally dying of lots of things all the time 🤷🏻♀️ We’re all gonna die of something. What an absolutely cold thing to say. I’m sure that kind of thinking will bring great comfort to the family and friends of the 800,000+ Americans that have died from COVID-19 since the beginning of 2020. In less then 2 years 800,000+ Americans have died. Not only has that virus killed over 800,000 Americans it has also left some who got the virus and survived with a multitude of ailments they didn’t have before. I believe they are called long haulers. And for many that did die it wasn’t a quick easy death. Some lingered for months hooked up to ventilators in and out of comas. And without their families to give them some comfort. Unbelievable. Unfuckingbelievable for her complete insensitivity and obtuseness. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 19, 2021 14:33:16 GMT
And reporting from hospital doctors is over 80% hospitalized are Inca Dec. So fuck those unvaxxed idiots who are putting a huge burden of the medical profession. What is Inca Dec? Unvaccinated. Dang auto “correct” |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 19, 2021 14:32:18 GMT
People are literally dying from Covid. Medical professionals are stressed to the nth degree. I mean, people are literally dying of lots of things all the time 🤷🏻♀️ We’re all gonna die of something. You are an insensitive, fucking awful human. Jesus fucking Christ—what the fuck is wrong with you?  |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 19, 2021 11:09:54 GMT
Peppermint rumchata came through the door tonight. Didn’t bother mixing it with anything. Delicious straight from the bottle I’ve not seen that here! |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 19, 2021 0:42:20 GMT
I'm confused. The same label list went to everyone. There were two versions, but the only difference was the list for international peas has USA under all the US addresses. The domestic list did not have that line. As for the list, I hate to admit how many times I counted and recounted all my outgoing cards trying to figure out why I was missing one. After about the 6th time it dawned on me that the "missing" card would be the label for myself. Please tell me I wasn't the only one to do that!   The cards are still arriving and I am really enjoying them all. So many creative peas out there! I’m confused too. Everyone received the same list. I remember several years ago in the exchange, one of the peas admitted that she had mistakenly sent herself a card 😆 I went back in my email…I did find it but I don’t see Elaine! Sorry for unnecessary drama (I’d delete my post but it’s been copied/quoted) I’m a bit sensitive this week, had a work “friend” throw me under the bus and then not be included in work activities, which hurt my feelings. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 18, 2021 19:17:51 GMT
I sent mine out!
I sent to everyone on the list, including all international.
I was sad to see a few names not on my list that mentioned they were joining/participating. It’s hard to be so hated/disliked at Christmas!!!
I’m sure the bulk of them will arrive before Christmas, with possibly exception of international, but they’ll get there.
Thanks for another year and grateful to those who sent any my way.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 18, 2021 3:36:23 GMT
Well, my governor has called up 1000 National Guard to help with staffing shortage in the NE Ohio region-which is where I live. The highest incidences are in Cleveland’s and Akron-Canton, but my county has seen a big uptick in cases too. The school system that I retired from had to go virtual until after Christmas because there were so many food service absences-and it’s a very high poverty district- that they had no way of feeding the kids. My friends who are still working were upset because they had activities and gifts for the kids. The kids were upset too. It’s just terrible. So around here, Covid is bad. A lot of people are carrying on with life. But I’m 66, and not feeling especially lucky, so I am being very careful. Limited contact and yes, masking for me. My friends are doing the same. BUT I will be spending Christmas with my fully vaxed family. And reporting from hospital doctors is over 80% hospitalized are Inca Dec. So fuck those unvaxxed idiots who are putting a huge burden of the medical profession. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 18, 2021 3:34:21 GMT
Yes! I also feel like there is an alternate universe. It is so weird. Nobody in either state I’m in (TX and FL) are as scared or living in fear as the majority of people on this board are. For the record, I hate Trump, am a Democrat and consider myself more Liberal than not. Me too. I didn’t vote for trump. I’ve always considered myself a dem. But seeing the way some liberals and dem states have gone completely over the edge and off the deep end has me completely reconsidering the way I’ll vote in the next election. I just don’t get all these feelings of should I go/is this ok/I’m scared. And then people claim they aren’t living in fear, but they’re cancelling vacations and worried about attending milestones and visiting family…umm, that’s living in fear, y’all. People are literally dying from Covid. Medical professionals are stressed to the nth degree. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 17, 2021 14:06:59 GMT
Call your Congressional reps. Jordan must go. He advocates actions outside of the Constitution.
He’s a fucking weasel, an inefficient representative of Ohio. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 17, 2021 14:04:00 GMT
I really wish our country and a portion of our politicians loved their children much as their guns. I wish a life outside the womb was as important as one inside the womb. Year 20 of my teaching career… not sure I can do it any longer. I’m broken and beat down. If one more person tells me to self-care I will throat punch them. Just so broken. It makes me so sad. I was born for this. This is an essential part of who I am. I don’t even know who or what I am without it, but dang… And just yesterday, Ohio republicans just passed a bill to eliminate background checks and training requirements for gun purchases. So yes, republicans value guns over children. Everyday if the week, 24/7. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 17, 2021 11:34:32 GMT
It’s finals week in a lot of schools here so kids are not in class as normal. We’ve heard about it, but not a big amount of attention is really being given to it that I see.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 16, 2021 22:42:47 GMT
Thanks peas!
While I love what I do, it often sucks the Christmas right out of you!! Lol
Still haven’t put up our tree!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 16, 2021 14:37:16 GMT
A local hospital here just brought back their mobile trailer morgue and it’s sitting right out in front.
😳😳😳
It’s a shame that these idiots refusing to at a minimum, wear a mask, social distance or get the vaccine haven’t learned a lesson yet.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 16, 2021 14:19:29 GMT
I’m sure Biden’s response will be much better for them than tossing them rolls of paper towels, or blaming on the town.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 16, 2021 9:49:47 GMT
Yes, and I’m glad that he did. It gave businesses the backbone to demand Covid vaccines. So in the end, in my opinion, it was the right thing to do. See, that’s an *opinion.* As has been explained to you a tiresome number of times, and yet you keep ignoring it, smaller companies were exempt because it was felt that many of them lacked the administrative setup to enforce it. I am ok with that. Oh look, another opinion of mine. Biden changed course after it was clear that a lot of jackasses were not getting that “newfangled vaccine.” Hey, they’re fine with taking those monoclonal antibodies-also newfangled-once they get sick, aren’t they? Odd how that works. So we have established that Biden changed his mind and decided that mandates were needed. Yes, those are facts. Clearly you disapprove of mandates and feel that all companies should have been included. That is your opinion. See the difference? You keep repeating the same things. Obviously you are Big Mad about the mandates. Hey, there’s my opinion again. As for Afghanistan, where did that come from? Are you just free-ranging ranting about Biden? Now, I can see that you are going to keep typing the same things over and over, interspersed with words like “nope” and “lies.” It’s all very tedious, so go ahead and have the last word. You keep repeating the same things. Obviously you are Big Mad about the mandates. Hey, there’s my opinion again. As for Afghanistan, where did that come from? Are you just free-ranging ranting about Biden? Now, I can see that you are going to keep typing the same things over and over, It came from the oddly political timing of his about face on mandates. Biden put mandates in place only when the fallout hit from his colossal failure in Afghanistan that left so many people behind. Right when he was getting condemnation from all sides that wouldn't let up. When the fallout from refusing to listen to his military experts cost people their lives. Again, right when he was getting condemnation from all sides that wouldn't let up. Yes I repeated myself again. You can repeat yourself all you want, it still doesn’t make what you say true. The garbage the trumpers/conservatives are spewing about the mandates are ridiculous and just not true—especially what you’ve just posted. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 16, 2021 1:26:42 GMT
I stand corrected, pat yourself on the back  ...no need for the massive bolding though   Technically, she only “thanked” for responses. Didn’t acknowledge any kindness. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 16, 2021 0:31:03 GMT
I personally love HEMPZ lotions. Not expensive at all though!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 15, 2021 12:04:32 GMT
Well that's ok then, isn't it? I can't decide if you're really this dense or just trolling at this point. Not trolling at all. I read posts here and I’m flabbergasted and appalled by the mandates and restrictions peas are posting about. Just presenting the view from somewhere else. It’s not like that everywhere. I’ve been to 25 states in 2020-2021 and haven’t encountered the level of restrictions and masking the peas talk about. We have purposely avoided the Northeast and Cali, Wash state, and Oregon. Everywhere else has been fine. Easy to travel, easy to do things, and not batshit crazy about restrictions. I feel sad that people are living with the level of anxiety in the OP. I try to comprehend being that upset at encountering an unmasked person and just can’t. This place has become a bit of an echo chamber lately and y’all just sit around and validate the anxiety and anger all the time. Meanwhile the rest of us have moved on. My uncle died Sunday while being intubated. I’ll let everyone at the funeral Monday know we should “just move on”. He was fully vaccinated, however 2 weeks prior (Thanksgiving week) was around others who were requested to wear masks when gathering (and refused). |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 15, 2021 11:53:16 GMT
It's not splitting hairs. It's you ignoring the facts stated by focusing on and dismissing an opinion. I also said "That doesn't do anything to prevent or even explain away the deaths in companies of less than 100." Not an opinion. and "The reality is: caveats put in the mandates by Biden contradict the so called importance of the mandates." Also not an opinion. Another fact. After saying he wouldn't mandate vaccines, Biden put mandates in place when the fallout hit from his colossal failure in Afghanistan that left so many people behind. Right when he was getting condemnation from all sides that wouldn't let up. When the fallout from refusing to listen to his military experts cost people their lives. Again, right when he was getting condemnation from all sides that wouldn't let up. Interesting timing for something that he "wasn't going to do". Yes, and I’m glad that he did. It gave businesses the backbone to demand Covid vaccines. So in the end, in my opinion, it was the right thing to do. See, that’s an *opinion.* As has been explained to you a tiresome number of times, and yet you keep ignoring it, smaller companies were exempt because it was felt that many of them lacked the administrative setup to enforce it. I am ok with that. Oh look, another opinion of mine. Biden changed course after it was clear that a lot of jackasses were not getting that “newfangled vaccine.” Hey, they’re fine with taking those monoclonal antibodies-also newfangled-once they get sick, aren’t they? Odd how that works. So we have established that Biden changed his mind and decided that mandates were needed. Yes, those are facts. Clearly you disapprove of mandates and feel that all companies should have been included. That is your opinion. See the difference? You keep repeating the same things. Obviously you are Big Mad about the mandates. Hey, there’s my opinion again. As for Afghanistan, where did that come from? Are you just free-ranging ranting about Biden? Now, I can see that you are going to keep typing the same things over and over, interspersed with words like “nope” and “lies.” It’s all very tedious, so go ahead and have the last word. Yup. It’s a perfect example of her constant whining about liberals not bending to her will, her misinformation, her opinions, and her refusal to look at the ever changing findings/needs of this pandemic. So she’ll keep on posting the same thing (false/incomplete info) ad nauseam; and then she’ll claim that when engagement to her misinformation stops, that “we” don’t have facts to dispute them! It’s as if the trump cult would just prefer to stick their heads in the sand and pretend it doesn’t exists. You know she’s posting big fat whopper lies by stating that this administration isn’t following science (that it all political per one of her last posts) |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 15, 2021 11:44:47 GMT
Funny. Such hypocrisy from conservatives…
Liberal peas have been called names, made fun of, and have been horribly raked over the coals and bullied by conservative peas because they won’t jump on board with the lies and tales they tell.
Conservative peas have lied, posted tons on false information, attacked liberal peas for their point of view. It’s like they have selective amnesia in remembering that.
We’re still here.
So who are really the snowflakes crying those “so called liberal tears”?
It’s hilarious to watch certain conservative peas try to pretend that it’s all the fault of liberal peas that they CHOSE to leave. On their own. Their own decision. Their own free will.
Their leaving because THEY could not get liberals to bend to their will, their falsehoods, their lies, or the mounds of misinformation that was rampant and continues to this day. Liberals challenged their lies and alternative facts and refused to accept them and it appears that having no leg to stand on wasn’t fun for them any longer.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 15, 2021 11:29:52 GMT
I didn't come here to argue, so I'm not. I'm just sharing how happy I am for him that he is getting help and learning other stuff on the way.  So what was your point in posting? Since you don't care to engage in any meaningful conversation, just throwing random updates at us, it seems pretty obvious you just wanted to stir the pot, maybe test us to see how we'd respond or whatever. There is a happy medium between arguing and just ignoring people. So - you had some incredibly kind words and support from the Peas as we always do when someone is down, but there's been no thanks from you, no recognition of that, just obtuse posts about chess etc. So, are you happy now? Did you achieve what you wanted? More likely she’s disappointed that she was actually met with kindness and support, and couldn’t play victim of all the meanie liberals (which appears to be the current theme from a few alter ID peas this last week in threads) |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 15, 2021 11:27:03 GMT
I didn't come here to argue, so I'm not. I'm just sharing how happy I am for him that he is getting help and learning other stuff on the way.  I’m not arguing with you. I’m simply asking if your mindset has evolved so you can be the grandmother your grandson needs. Since she refuses to answer, I’d just go with what she’s already ADAMANTLY stated on the subject—that she stated being gay is a “mental illness”, that LBGTQ/trans are “freak shows” that She and her religion say that “gays are sinners going to hell”, and clearly that she fully supports all politicians want to wipe the LBGTQ off the earth. She’s posted enough of exactly that here for the peas to see exactly how she stands. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 14, 2021 23:24:15 GMT
Damn! I had no idea this was an old thread. I saw it pop up and read it not looking at the dates. I was a pea way back when. It was heavily conservative. I was one of the first liberals who dared come out of the closet. I got band-wagoned on a regular basis. Then a few more liberals joined in being more vocal. It was around the Iraq War time. The conservatives messaged each other to come to the board if someone started going against their opinions. They didn't scare me, and I didn't back down. As a result I made friends on the board. Women I have met in person and still consider friends today. That is the huge positive of social networks. I have definitely mellowed as I have gotten older. I will argue and debate. I try and refrain from personal attacks. They really don't help. Yup. The board leaned so conservative that many of us "hid" our true selves until people like you and others paved the way for us. I've been here for a long long time and back then I sure felt that I was the only Jewish, bleeding heart liberal pea on the board. Exactly. I was called names on the old board by conservatives and directions to my house posted (it wasn’t my house though…some other person with the same name in another state) |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 14, 2021 23:20:10 GMT
And speaking of liberals (or in this case 1 liberal) bullying: You’re desperate aren’t you. Just another “old time republican” trying too hard to make crap stick that just isn’t so…accurate. Republicans have bullying 101 down pat…just look at Congress. |
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...no need for the massive bolding though 
