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Post by Olan on Mar 18, 2021 23:25:15 GMT
Jesus Olan, your rambling makes you seem like you're on drugs or drunk. I don't even know what the hell you just said. Just a bunch of random gibberish trying to convince everyone that you're not trying to cause drama. Ugh. This was a really rough time for me as far as mental health goes. I had a really bad work environment in addition to everything Black people were experiencing as far as racial violence goes. I was likely high at the time of this “rambling”. I’ll remind everyone how trendy it is for white women to talk openly about their cannabis usage so it would be in pretty poor taste to damn me for it. I wouldn’t care if you did. Cannabis helps with not giving a fuck about what anyone thinks of you. Especially people YOU don’t think highly of. 😏 no pun
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Post by Olan on Mar 18, 2021 23:19:25 GMT
Truly don't mean to offend, but I'm genuinely curious. Why are you speaking of yourself in third person? Not offended. Glad you asked 😏 I tag myself for anyone wanting to research if I have in fact kept my participation free of personal attacks, name calling, generally bitchiness. Receipts essentially. I don’t speak of myself in third person during face to face interactions though online it’s helpful to hyperlink your reputation in a thread ripe with personal attacks. Excuse the pretentiousness of it all 🤣
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Post by Olan on Mar 18, 2021 22:14:38 GMT
Thanks, Olan. I'd love to know why you don't like Trevor. He seems really authentic to me and his social commentary has felt relevant to me. Trevor Noah gave Tomi a platform to speak as if she needed another. That’s the lite version. I just don’t like how he moves about racism. Shaun King is another male voice who I think talks over people who Black people would be better served by. I don’t hate it or anything. I just prefer giving voice to people no one wants to hear from
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Post by Olan on Mar 18, 2021 22:08:51 GMT
I’m a 36 yr old woman who could easily be described as “of average intelligence”....back in 2017 when I was warning everyone the danger of viewing white men as harmless and Black men as monsters who deserve to be shot dead, I did not have a crystal ball. Listen to Black women. Trust Black women. We saw this shit coming. Over policing Black people means those who have the biggest propensity for violence are free to move about the cabin y’all. They are taken alive and fed Burger King because they are among friends in police custody. Thank you, Olan. I'm listening and I'm trusting what I hear from Black women. Absolutely! I’ve been accused of having an ego/savior complex so I find it necessary to say Olan does not have to be the Black woman’s voice you listen to. There are tons of activists who will explain it better or hell even provide a stronger call to action. I think the goal is just that we stop ignoring issues because it might require actionable change.
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Post by Olan on Mar 18, 2021 21:52:05 GMT
Sharon's still digging. One thing about racists, they have a hard time shutting about about how they're not racist. ""In situations like this, you're always going to get people who you've had disagreements with in the past, people who've got axes to grind, who come out of the woodwork and they'll come out with their bs and that's it," Osbourne said. "It doesn't surprise me at all." And while "being accused of racism is no joke," she said what's happening now is "revenge," and bitter people —alluding to Leah Remini, a season 1 co-host and named source to Ali — "coming out with stupid, childish comments." Asked specifically about what she allegedly said about Chen, she replied, "It's all crap... It's got no real foundation. Allegations of calling a Chinese lady a wonton, it's like — is that all you've got? It's like really?"" www.yahoo.com/entertainment/sharon-osbourne-thinks-cbs-will-fire-her-amid-the-talk-investigation-use-me-as-a-sacrificial-lamb-165004982.htmlHer claim to fame is being married to a drug addicted singer and then having a trashy reality show BEFORE the Kardashians did it. How she leveraged that into a career is why I won’t allow anyone to call Oprah overrated🙄
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Post by Olan on Mar 18, 2021 21:36:13 GMT
Let’s stop putting words in Olan’s mouth. I have no problem saying whatever it is on my heart.
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Post by Olan on Mar 18, 2021 21:33:01 GMT
This makes me so sad, but I'm glad she fought back. I often wonder what I would do if I was in that situation. I hope I never find out. Better to prepare before you are in the situation that requires defense. Most disrespected and unprotected...should also be well trained. I’ve spent thousands of dollars making sure I can leave Brock dead in an alley. No LEO, no jurors, no one saying I had a smart mouth 👀and deserved it, etc. just the ability to walk away and live another day. Gun proficiency is next on the agenda. I tell everyone who will listen do not record or reason with a racist, do what your ancestors could not. And make em proud.
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Post by Olan on Mar 18, 2021 18:00:39 GMT
So how do you know Harry told Gayle “exactly what was said”? I just do. You stick to your little fantasy world where people don't behave they way people do, and I'll continue to live in the real one where it isn't rocket science to understand how things like this play out. I just do🤣🤣🤣😂
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Post by Olan on Mar 18, 2021 16:35:14 GMT
It’s heartbreaking. The level of depravity you’ve reached to inflict harm on an elder. Goodness.
My shins ache and I have to turn away from even the description of violence she gave.
Same question different event/year:
Who is raising these people?
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Post by Olan on Mar 18, 2021 14:22:39 GMT
I'm sorry her actions are upsetting you. But, I can't help but think that a call out thread such as this is more likely to increase contact between the two of you than to decrease it. I know what you are saying, but just this past week Olan asked that people publicly call her out on her behavior when she was crossing the line. This is what she asked for. Damned if you do, harassed if you don't. Damned if you do? Really? This is what happens when white women are allowed to decide where’s the line and what constitutes crossing it. Note Olan didn’t engage in personal attacks, name calling, being snarky for no good reason etc. none of this was typical of my participation on the board. And before anyone says anything I don’t give a damn what anyone thinks of me bumping old threads. These threads should serve as a reminder of how open you were to hearing out a Black woman in America. Elaine-Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine-Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine-Wohlgemuth Shilling Elaine-Wohlgemuth Shilling
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Post by Olan on Mar 18, 2021 13:56:50 GMT
July 2017 Thread started by zookeeper The title originally contained royal bitch. 2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/64733/olan-sweetest-peaThis is how I was treated as a Black woman for simply talking about race relations on a message board with white women. Imagine if any one of you were spurred to action instead of deciding I was the enemy. No apologies or rehashing but I won’t ever stop talking about how I was treated and complicit most were in those attacks.
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Post by Olan on Mar 18, 2021 13:49:24 GMT
You've made three assumptions that you've numbered and listed and included a little "doesn't fit your agenda" taunt yet I will be accused of shutting down dialogue and 15 people will "like" your comment. I can't though that's bullying hahahahaha! You don't know my agenda unless I've sat you down and told you and I haven't. You are utterly ridiculous anymore. I think it's a fair and reasonable conclusion that most peas know your agenda. Just like you do with going back to the "spreadsheet" looking up all those posts you "liked" to find for easy reference, other peas also can do the same with your history and the words you say--so again, it's not hard to come to a conclusion of what your agenda here is and has been. I’m still waiting for someone to tell me what the fuck my agenda was! I would be downright ASHAMED if I were some of you peas. I know you aren’t but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be. Not even from an I told you so perspective but to see how easy it was for people to speak to me the way that you did. And then vilify me! I laugh now but boy did these threads use to hurt my feelings. papercrafteradvocatelucygWhat was the agenda ladies? What was yours?
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Post by Olan on Mar 18, 2021 1:41:24 GMT
I’m a 36 yr old woman who could easily be described as “of average intelligence”....back in 2017 when I was warning everyone the danger of viewing white men as harmless and Black men as monsters who deserve to be shot dead, I did not have a crystal ball. Listen to Black women. Trust Black women. We saw this shit coming.
Over policing Black people means those who have the biggest propensity for violence are free to move about the cabin y’all.
They are taken alive and fed Burger King because they are among friends in police custody.
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Post by Olan on Mar 17, 2021 4:31:14 GMT
Olan, thank you for sharing. I’m hoping everyone clicks that link and really listens, absorbs, learns. I really appreciated all of her posts but especially appreciated the sentiment behind her tone/tone policing post. No problem!
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Post by Olan on Mar 17, 2021 1:23:31 GMT
I posted a video of her attack on Sheryl it’s classic and pretty reminiscent of all the times I’ve brought up racism to an unwilling “friend” 👀. The tears, the demand to be educated without concern for the emotional labor, policing of the friends anger or response, the shitty apology full of blame and lack of ownership etc. it’s why I am so careful with my friend selection these days What I hear in Underwoods response is what a blessing it is for people to reveal themselves for who they truly are. No matter how woke you are or how many Black friends you think you have, don’t hold your own ally badge ceremony. Especially while supporting Piers Morgan heaux ass. Racist people always talk about their link to the Black community. I remember when her daughter made the ON AIR comment that Latin people were only good for cleaning toilets. I hope she is canceled in a meaningful way. Underwood was a saint in her handling of such disrespect. Measured response...Black women are experts. www.eonline.com/amp/news/1248003/why-sheryl-underwood-is-calling-her-and-sharon-osbournes-tense-exchange-a-blessing
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Post by Olan on Mar 17, 2021 1:05:13 GMT
I’m a big Maxine Waters fan. I love a spicy elder. True to it not new to it. I’m considering my first ever tattoo to honor her. Maxine Waters then a mermaid or just Auntie depending on my pain tolerance.
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Post by Olan on Mar 16, 2021 15:47:49 GMT
That means a donation to the NAACP Michigan chapter is in order. And dismantling racist systems whenever you see them.
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Post by Olan on Mar 16, 2021 15:12:15 GMT
Both mulling over The Talk incident I guess! Glo will always say it better. I think that’s the other good self check of activism! Am I talking just to hear the sound of my own voice? Is someone else more equipped to have this conversation? http://instagram.com/p/CMe9IjCFlAb
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Post by Olan on Mar 16, 2021 14:18:09 GMT
Why is he not wearing a mask? I don't know the answer to that no more than anyone else does but by a process of elimination I would guess there is no risk to him. He was escorted to the car by medical staff. The car is a safe heaven for him, both the driver and I'm assuming, the other man is a Royal protection officer, are masked and I have no doubt that both are tested daily. Added to that I would think by now he's also had both his jabs. It's not as if he's coming into contact with any of the public or anyone that would be a medical risk to him. “I don't know the answer to that no more than anyone else does..” Lovely how now everyone is admitting their limitations. When it was poor Meghan you were an expert whose authority on the issue needed to be respected. You were even offended someone suggest you look at another perspective😏
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Post by Olan on Mar 15, 2021 14:27:22 GMT
Her page has great info! Thanks for sharing, following her now. The post about "ghetto" names is especially poignant. A grad school friend had me in tears not long ago when she said she gave her kids non-African names so they wouldn't be judged for that too. The level of protections black women have to wrap themselves and their children in is heartbreaking. I have a very white passing name and it was intentional. All of my siblings too. My father was pretty big on respectability politics. My nieces and nephews all have names more reflective of their culture though so progress.
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Post by Olan on Mar 15, 2021 13:37:22 GMT
Keeping your emotions in check so Black people can express righteous anger is good allyship work. I feel like this is the biggest lesson the peas and white women in general need to take away from any anti-racist conversations. The centering, the misplaced anger, the tears etc. it doesn’t have a place in all this. I feel like almost everything has a touch of racial tension (hs sports, the bachelor, Royal family, politics, music etc) because we’ve ignored race relations for so long and didn’t prepare for the reckoning that had to follow. It’s here 🤷🏾♀️
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Post by Olan on Mar 15, 2021 13:29:28 GMT
On March 15, 1901, a white mob in Rome, Tennessee, lynched a Black woman named Ballie Crutchfield. Ms.Crutchfield was accused of no crime, and targeted simply because the mob had earlier that night failed in its attempt to lynch her brother.
A week earlier, a white man in Rome had reportedly lost a wallet containing $120. As word spread that a young Black boy had found the wallet and given it to a young Black man named William Crutchfield, white residents accused William of stealing the wallet.
During this era, the deep racial hostility that permeated Southern society burdened Black people with a presumption of guilt that often served to focus suspicion on Black communities who were accused of crimes that may or may not have been committed. Though there was no evidence supporting the claim that William Crutchfield had stolen the wallet, he was promptly arrested and taken to the local jail. That night, a white mob stormed the jail and abducted Mr. Crutchfield from police custody, but as they prepared to lynch him, he escaped.
The lynch mob searched but failed to find Mr. Crutchfield; determined to take out their vengeance on someone, they instead seized his sister, Ballie Crutchfield, from her home. Though she was not even alleged to be in any way involved with the lost wallet, the mob took Ms. Crutchfield—whose first name was also reported as “Sallie”—to a bridge a short distance from the town, tied her hands behind her back, shot her in the head, and threw her body into the creek below.
Lynching was a tool of racial terror used to maintain white supremacy and dominance by instilling fear in the entire Black community. This brutal violence was often unpredictable and arbitrary. As was the case for Ms. Crutchfield, it was extremely common during this era for a lynch mob’s focus to expand beyond a specific person accused of an offense. Lynch mobs frequently targeted members of a suspect’s family, neighbors, or any and all Black people unfortunate enough to be in the mob’s path. Countless Black people were victims of racial terror lynchings not because they were accused of any crime, but simply because they were Black and present when the lynch mob could not locate its intended victim.
Ms. Crutchfield’s body was recovered from the creek the morning after she was killed, and the coroner’s jury quickly concluded that she had met her death “at the hands of parties unknown.” No one was held accountable for her lynching.
Ms. Crutchfield is one of at least 237 Black people lynched in Tennessee between 1877 and 1950, and one of more than 6,500 victims of racial terror lynching that EJI has documented between 1865 and 1950. To learn more, explore EJI’s reports, Lynching in America and Reconstruction in America.
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