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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 14:23:33 GMT
Yes. I ask my girls for preliminary ideas around September and start shopping then. If I do it little by little it doesn't break any one month's budget. I'll be done by Thanksgiving. My oldest mostly asks for stuff for her apartment these days and the youngest is still very much in college girl mode - wants this perfume and that fancy purse. I expect next year she'll be wanting apartment stuff, too.  |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 13:44:57 GMT
Why would Republicans want help from the government? She was just giving those people what they voted for. I’m sure they have some bootstraps they can use instead. Wow!!! Talk about a reach… How so? You just got done saying elsewhere that socialism is always bad. Government agency help is socialism. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 13:44:57 GMT
Why would Republicans want help from the government? She was just giving those people what they voted for. I’m sure they have some bootstraps they can use instead. Wow!!! Talk about a reach… Double post. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 13:41:10 GMT
so maybe we all should be buying land and opening cemeteries.. cause if you gut the public health system on the national and local level, if you continue to take away women's health, if you dismiss vaccines ... then the cemeteries will be in high demand.. as that is what happened before our strong public health system.. people, and esp. children died. from currently preventable disease. who is lining up their kids to die from measles? or from unregulated food supply? or from poor food manufacturing quality control? and as you take regulations on pollution and coal, etc..that's more people dying from bad air and bad water. that is the direction the maga people want us to go...death and destruction. you can't dismiss their words as pie in the sky. Nobody is gutting the health system. Who’s taking regulations on pollution and coal, etc.? And RFK Jr wants the toxic chemicals out of our food supply and wants to regulate big pharma better. You say MAGA like it’s a bad thing…I think everyone wants America to be great again. Well, mostly everyone. The “greatness” to which Republicans look back was not great for anyone but wealthy white men. No one with a brain wants a return to the Gilded Age. Did you sleep through history class? |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 13:39:17 GMT
Oh and I’m sure there’s a go fund me in her future too. You know cuz socialism is so bad. So, you think that Trump is going to eliminate the aca and replace it with what, nothing?? And it’s a proven fact, socialism IS bad. Weird. Some of the countries with the highest happiness scores have Democratic Socialist forms of government. And yes, Trump will repeal the ACA and replace it with a return to a fully market based system, which excludes millions of people from being able to access and afford healthcare. In other words, nothing. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 13:36:37 GMT
Good. I look forward to you reporting on the find out part of your little experiment. How unsurprising that you’re unable to imagine the negative effects your vote will have even on people you don’t know. I don’t think there will be negative effects. I think there will be positive effects to everything. But that’s me, I’m an optimist. Y’all gonna learn, one way or another. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 13:26:55 GMT
If you think you have some sort of moral superiority because you can’t accurately tag us as enjoyers of fascism … well, that’s stupid. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 13:25:51 GMT
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 13:24:47 GMT
What’s your evidence that the “vast majority” are not working and contributing? Keep in mind that the studies that show the net positive effect undocumented immigrants have on our economy take any use of tax-paid benefits into account. Where is your evidence that they are? “Vast majority” is a pretty subjective term. The evidence is in the fact that they have a net positive effect on our economy. www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/news/new-data-immigrants-driving-prosperity-in-united-states-2022 |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 13:18:05 GMT
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 13:15:43 GMT
She was fired. I voted against making fema political. Trump already has, and you and the op voted for him anyone and then pretend that making fema political is bad. So which is it? Iwhy is it bad when a single official does it without authority and fired and yet good when trump does it over and over again? I’m glad she was fired. It should never come to not getting help because of a sign in a yard. Why would Republicans want help from the government? She was just giving those people what they voted for. I’m sure they have some bootstraps they can use instead. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 13:14:36 GMT
Good. Trump wants to dismantle FEMA and Project 2025 says states/localities are too dependent on federal disaster funds and need to find the money themselves after a disaster. Sounds like an early example of those who supported Trump getting what they voted for. I don’t see the problem with that. Still harping on about project 2025 being Trumps playbook I see…has the msm disinformation/lies/twisting of words during this election taught you nothing?? I’m gonna guess that Trump is going to want to restructure FEMA so that it is disaster relief ONLY. Not have it be porked up with other ways to move the money to other non-disaster related things. But that’s just a guess… You’re gonna learn. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 11:45:09 GMT
The vast majority of people here illegally work and pay taxes, knowing they will never reap the benefits of the programs their taxes fund. They contribute to our economies and make things better by doing jobs that need to be done (and that aren’t being done by Americans). Study after study has validated the positive net effect these immigrants have on our economy. Since I know that they’re not, with limited exceptions, consuming resources needed by others, I’m fine with them being here. What we should be doing is broadening our guest worker program to accommodate those doing necessary jobs, so they don’t have to live in fear of being deported because too many people watched right wing media and believed their lies. And please understand that the rich right have made you think that poor people are taking what is yours. While the same rich right wingers are laughing as they write themselves ever larger tax cuts and set up a system designed to benefit them and not you. If you’re really concerned about services for the American poor, stop voting Elon Musk another tax break. Hmmmm…I think that “vast majority” is a bit of a stretch. I’m sure there are a lot who do work and pay taxes, but I’m going to guess though that the “vast majority” of the ones that have come over since 2021 are not part of that group. And I think that billions in subsidies to house, feed, clothe, school and medicate should be spent on American citizens first. What’s your evidence that the “vast majority” are not working and contributing? Keep in mind that the studies that show the net positive effect undocumented immigrants have on our economy take any use of tax-paid benefits into account. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 11:38:16 GMT
Be sure to drink a lot of raw milk and skip any FDA-approved medical treatments in the future. For the next pandemic, you get no treatment except ivermectin. Enjoy! (BTW, when you voted for Trump, you voted to hurt people I love. People who have done nothing to you. That sounds a lot like hatred to me.) Raw milk is what I’m most excited about. And ivermectin is now being touted as a cancer cure. Sounds like a win win. I’ve done nothing to people you love either. I don’t even know who those people are. Good. I look forward to you reporting on the find out part of your little experiment. How unsurprising that you’re unable to imagine the negative effects your vote will have even on people you don’t know. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 11:36:13 GMT
She already said she’s not coming back to this thread. Leftturnonly is one of our most reliable turd in the punchbowl peas.
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 11:33:53 GMT
All I can say about Texas is, y’all had a chance to vote on whether or to ban all abortions and, what happened the majority voted to keep the ban in place. The next time I see a sob story on the news about a young woman dying because she couldn’t get an abortion she needed to save life, I won’t shed a tear. Who will you blame when all of the Orange Idiot’s promises don’t come to pass, or they affect you or your family in a negative way? Just because the majority didn’t vote for it doesn’t mean that everyone did. Also, I don’t know how it went down in Texas but in Florida and Missouri there were some shady antics going on, making the whole thing tainted in my opinion. Luckily Missouri’s passed but there were a lot of people in both places that didn’t want a good faith vote. I also go back to the question of why is it ok for people to have fundamental rights in one state and not the other? Again, Texas has never been allowed to vote on abortion. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 11:32:49 GMT
All I can say about Texas is, y’all had a chance to vote on whether or to ban all abortions and, what happened the majority voted to keep the ban in place. The next time I see a sob story on the news about a young woman dying because she couldn’t get an abortion she needed to save life, I won’t shed a tear. Who will you blame when all of the Orange Idiot’s promises don’t come to pass, or they affect you or your family in a negative way? No. Texas has not been allowed by our GOP overlords to vote on abortion access. Our state doesn’t have a mechanism for citizen led ballot initiatives. And the lege is too heavily gerrymandered R to hope they will ever put abortion on the statewide ballot. They prefer unilateral rule to anything approaching democracy. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 11:23:41 GMT
I see you skipped over the part where you lied. Unsurprising. I am genuinely curious though, are you really ok with 11+ million illegals consuming the resources (YOUR taxpaid dollars) of goods and services that should be going to aging, poor, veteran Americans first instead??? I’m not. I think Americans come first and foremost. The vast majority of people here illegally work and pay taxes, knowing they will never reap the benefits of the programs their taxes fund. They contribute to our economies and make things better by doing jobs that need to be done (and that aren’t being done by Americans). Study after study has validated the positive net effect these immigrants have on our economy. Since I know that they’re not, with limited exceptions, consuming resources needed by others, I’m fine with them being here. What we should be doing is broadening our guest worker program to accommodate those doing necessary jobs, so they don’t have to live in fear of being deported because too many people watched right wing media and believed their lies. And please understand that the rich right have made you think that poor people are taking what is yours. While the same rich right wingers are laughing as they write themselves ever larger tax cuts and set up a system designed to benefit them and not you. If you’re really concerned about services for the American poor, stop voting Elon Musk another tax break. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 11:19:31 GMT
*disdain. Yes, that describes my feelings towards Trump voters exactly. And it’s not name calling when the names are accurate. It’s just truth. . I could say the same, but I haven’t. And? Don’t care. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 11:18:18 GMT
You claimed Biden let 20 million illegal immigrants through in four years. (First you said it was 20 million criminals, but even you were forced to walk that back.) Eh, over exaggerated for sure. It would be interesting to know how many gotaways and illegals that didn’t come through a port of entry there are… So it’s not a lie, it’s just an “exaggeration?” That tracks. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 11:07:29 GMT
I see you skipped over the part where you lied. Unsurprising. Where did I lie?? I was quoting you. You claimed Biden let 20 million illegal immigrants through in four years. (First you said it was 20 million criminals, but even you were forced to walk that back.) |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 11:06:28 GMT
Not really. Unsurprising though that you assume the paradox of tolerance doesn’t apply to you. I never said it didn’t apply to me. I was pointing out your obvious distain for the right with your bitter name calling. You don’t see me doing that in this thread. *disdain. Yes, that describes my feelings towards Trump voters exactly. And it’s not name calling when the names are accurate. It’s just truth. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 11:05:34 GMT
I hope you enjoy paying $5 for a tomato - or simply not being able to buy a tomato - when the farms lose most of their workers. We grow our own food. I have over 800 jars of food I’ve canned in the last couple of years in my root cellar as of now. I’m not worried. But anyway, I’m sure there are plenty of documented/legal farm workers. There are not plenty. That’s why they hire undocumented ones. But when you want an item you don’t have canned and ready, and you can’t get it or it’s ridiculously priced, make sure to place the blame where it belongs. On the person you voted for. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 11:03:34 GMT
Weird, there are only 11 million undocumented immigrants in the US and that counts those who were here long before Trump. Where did the 20 million go? Again, you seem like an unreliable source. ONLY 11 million??? 🤣🤣🤣. ONLY? You think 11 million illegals is ok??? Mind boggling. I see you skipped over the part where you lied. Unsurprising. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 11:01:59 GMT
Good. Trump wants to dismantle FEMA and Project 2025 says states/localities are too dependent on federal disaster funds and need to find the money themselves after a disaster.
Sounds like an early example of those who supported Trump getting what they voted for. I don’t see the problem with that.
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 10:56:04 GMT
Philosophers have been debating the "paradox of tolerance" since it was given that name in the 1940s, when it was kinda relevant with the Nazis and stuff. But a concept that stretches back throughout history, even alluded to by Thomas Jefferson. Just another example about how this has played out before, history rhymes, etc. So you're going to have to do a bit more than that to make your case. 'Cause the case made for not having to be tolerant of the intolerant has already been well argued. I think you know what I was referring to in relation to the tolerance. Not sure why you are bringing up nazis though. Seems like a stretch. Not really. Unsurprising though that you assume the paradox of tolerance doesn’t apply to you. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 10:54:53 GMT
We make no bones about being anti-fascist. Sadly, your party can’t say the same. Who’s the fascist?? You and anyone who supports Trump. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 10:54:35 GMT
So again, you are saying that 20 million criminals, murderers and rapists were “let in” to the country in the last 4 years? Nope I misspoke. The murderers, criminals and rapists are among that throng. Sorry about that. Weird, there are only 11 million undocumented immigrants in the US and that counts those who were here long before Trump. Where did the 20 million go? Again, you seem like an unreliable source. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 10:51:11 GMT
Yes - but many smaller employers aren't equipped to determine if the documents provided for the I-9 are valid - in general if you hand the hiring manager a photo id and a social security card with a matching name then you've fulfilled the requirements. They don't have the wherewithal at a store or farm level to verify that they are a) real and b) belong to the person they hired. Can you recognise a fake ID and/or a fake SS card? I'm reasonably sure I couldn't unless it was a particularly bad fake. and tbh - anytime I've had to fill out an I-9 and have used my passport as my ID (it covers both photo id and right to work) there's been confusion even though it's clearly listed in column C and that you need either 1 from both A and B OR 1 from C. I've reviewed I-9's for alot of years and I agree, I am not well versed in ferreting out which documents are fake. I can't say I've never been presented with any, because I don't know... but I've definitely never identified one as fake. Federal law considers it illegal- punishable by fines or prison for non-compliance or making false statements, including using false documents.... Would that not make the person a criminal? In addition to breaking the law by being here illegally to begin with? Either way, criminals can go buh bye. I hope you enjoy paying $5 for a tomato - or simply not being able to buy a tomato - when the farms lose most of their workers. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 10:49:18 GMT
Ah, I see this thread has brought some of the MAGA trash back with it. I'm sure you ladies are feeling yourselves right now. (Of course I know people who are here without documentation. Generally speaking, I'd say to keep all of them and deport the gun-humping MAGA idiots. That would be actual common sense.) And the overwhelming majority voted to take out the trash in January. 🤣 A lot of you folks have been bamboozled by your husbands, SO’s, kids, etc. That harris ad about women not telling their husbands who they voted for isn’t going to age well. Too big to rig, right? 😝 I continue to hope that the worst effects of this presidency fall directly on those who voted for it. Y’all gonna learn. |
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